Wolves on the Westside?

Discussion in 'Fly Fishing Forum' started by scottr, Aug 19, 2012.

  1. zen leecher aka bill w

    zen leecher aka bill w born to work, forced to fish

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    I'm suprised that no one has questioned the genetics of these new wolves. Are they wild or hatchery wolves? Only wild wolves will do as hatchery fish...er.... wolves have improper DNA.

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    charter member of WWC (Wild Wolf Coalition)
     
  2. ribka

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    Wolves don 't indiscriminately kill animals and leave them

    A friend who is rancher just found 3 dead calves . None were eaten wolf tracks hair nearby.

    Thanks for the chuckle. Entertaining post

    http://missoulian.com/article_5ff01772-938f-11de-9aca-001cc4c03286.html




     
  3. Jason Rolfe

    Jason Rolfe Wanderer

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    Isn't it also a sort of anthropomorphization to say that wolves did something indiscriminately?

    I'm not saying that the wolves didn't kill the calves and leave them without eating them--but that doesn't necessarily mean that they didn't have a reason for doing it.

    Like any other animal, I would assume that a wolf would have to have a pretty good reason for expending the amount of energy it takes to kill something. They aren't going to just waste that energy, going around killing for the fun of it. We may not understand why it happens, but that doesn't mean we should assign some sinister motive to it.

    Jason
     
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  4. TallFlyGuy

    TallFlyGuy Adipossessed!

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    Really? I apologize if I offended or made someone mad. Perhaps I should have put a few smiley faces in there as I thought I was being funny. I was referencing a sandbox as in two kids arguing in a sandbox. It was suppose to be silly/funny/foolish to lighten up the discussion.
     
  5. TallFlyGuy

    TallFlyGuy Adipossessed!

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    That is very funny, because most "wolf lovers" reduce all the damage to wildlife and ecosystems in ID, WY, MT etc as "mother nature" doing her thing, and the emergency declared by ID is just a conspiracy theory. Again, very funny and entertaining post. Thanks for making me chuckle.
     
  6. Kent Lufkin

    Kent Lufkin Remember when you could remember everything?

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    Good suggestion. Not sure what I'd do if we got to camp and found wolves already there, lounging around the fire with a glass of single malt plotting an attack on defenseless livestock - or fly fishermen.

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  7. Richard Olmstead

    Richard Olmstead BigDog

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    I'll have my 3-wt loaded with hollow points to defend camp against any packs of marauding wolves looking to slaughter innocent fly fisherman indiscriminately...

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  8. Kent Lufkin

    Kent Lufkin Remember when you could remember everything?

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    Wow - there's WiFi at Noe Creek now? How's the fishing this morning? Any sign of wolves?

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  9. Trustfunder

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    "If it grows you harvest it, if it moves you shoot it, if it swims you catch it." What mans been doing for 1,000 of years and no tree/fur/feather hugging ecologist is going to stop it.

    How do you like those apples?
     
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  10. Kent Lufkin

    Kent Lufkin Remember when you could remember everything?

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    Pretty confrontational I'd say. While it's easy to talk tough as an anonymous participant from another time zone on an Internet forum, I think this would be a LOT friendlier conversation if we were all having it around a campfire.

    But I could be wrong . . .

    K
     
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  11. Jason Rolfe

    Jason Rolfe Wanderer

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    Absolutely agree.
     
  12. dflett68

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    i like those apples fine up until the last 150 years or so. if you want to say that we should keep things they way they have been for 1,000's of years, then you'll need to also roll back the technology and especially the population to what they were before. otherwise it just won't be much longer before there's nothing growing, moving, or swimming - including us. by the way, 1,000 ago nobody killed things just because they moved - that kind of disrespect (and lack of self-respect) is also an invention of modern man.
     
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    Wolves have no respect I guess, as they "sport kill" and have been documented all over the place for doing it. So I take it you have no respect for the wolves either right?
     
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    i don't expect wolves to behave like people, and i don't expect people to behave like wolves.
     
  15. TallFlyGuy

    TallFlyGuy Adipossessed!

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    Well you said surplus killing was invented by man. Wrong.