WTB Hand Gun for Alaska

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  1. tedshuck

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    In 2001 I floated the Kanektok with three other friends. On sound advice, we did not carry any firearms. Instead, we each carried bear spray in holsters and practiced with it. We also carried small air horns, the kind you can get at a marine supply store, with about a pint size air reservoir. These are REALLY loud. We saw lots of bear scat and prints, but the closest we saw any bears was about 500 yards. I think that the area you are in makes a big difference. I know that the Inuits shoot bear along the Kanektok, so this is bound to make them less likely to approach humans. Another area might be more of a problem.

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  2. tkww

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    Mossberg makes some "marine coat" versions in 18" and 20" that I think are 6+1 and 9+1 (2 3/4" shells). They're a tad bit more affordable than the Remington Stainless(!!). I carried the 18" when I was up there a couple years ago.
     
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    holy moley, Robert has common sense. I agree. I lived in AK for 6 yrs and will use bear spray. bears don't want a confrontation any more than we people do. It's a sad fact that too many time humans just shoot to shoot. for several years the brown bear season was closed because too many bears were killed and if you think Alaskans were not pissed at how cowardly some people can be think again. After some investigations idiots shot bears and cubs when they were not threatened. once a sow goes down, the cubs are either killed by AF&G or they die in the wild or captured "IF" there is a zoo that will take them. If more men would act like Men, and respect Bears, and just go on about your business fishing we wouldn't have such a mess. Some may disagree but AK fish & game don't write up "fishing in bear country" information that calls for shooting a bear. Too many people have not taken the time to think through and know their options. Carry a gun is fine, using bear spray first is all you need. it's why they sell it and most sensible fishermen use. U see guides in teh bush always packing guns because they don't want their insurance rates going up and you better make the kill shot count or youi'll be lucky to stay alive. You piss off a grizzly and your finished anyway. bear spray deters and it's a psycological advantage to the human. The bear doesn't feel threatened for it's life. A bullet to it's body does. Use bear spray
     
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    I have a Ruger 44 mag single action blackhawk, stainless. I bought it while I was stationed in Alaska for fly fishing. I hear what you guys are saying about the shotgun and valid points, however it's hard to fly fish with a shotgun under your arm.

    It's had half a box of shells shot through it...I have a shoulder holster and and a side holster (somewhere, I'll have to find them since the move) I'll sell it all for $450 firm (it's not eating anything). PM if interested.
     
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    X2. I hunt Ptarmigan way down on the Alaska Peninsula and the brown bears are super thick - like 6 to 12 sightings in a morning's walk. I never felt compelled to carry a sidearm. Just my SxS with #7 shot for birds and bear spray. My dogs have totally tripped across sleeping brown bears and the bears just get the hell out of there. They have no interest in us.
     
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    The guy wants to buy a hand gun. Anybody??
     
  7. Steve Saville

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    I don't remember where you said you were going but I've been up there a dozen times or more and never carried a gun. I've seen only one live bear anywhere that might threaten me and that was a long way off. I did see a guy who had just shot a bear on the Russian River and he was a little red-faced as Fish and Game was writing him a king-sized ticket. You might want to re-think it and let your guide carry.
     
  8. Kirk Singleton

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    I have a ported stainless S&W 629 classic that I bought for a AK pistol bear hunt a few years ago. I carry that with me in MT moose country but feel it is a little small for both animals. I also have a 870 with 7 slugs that I keep in the boat. It is harder to carry around but a better choice in my opinion.
    All that said, the things I read now say bear spray is the way to go. There is quite a bit to read online.
     
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    I'm definatly going up with Bear spray, the gun is still up in the air. Part of me tells me to take both and the other part tells me to save the money and spend it up there doing something with my other half.
     
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    Go for the latter - a much better ROI.
     
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    View attachment 41996 View attachment 41995 I too had brand new Rugar .44 stainless 5 inch barrel. it was a beauty but i sold it. I believe the pic of this bear who i was fishing near for 5 hrs was killed a few months later. it was the case that involved some 24 yr old shooting the young bear off the side of the mnt along side sterling hwy and watched it rolled down the hill as a line of cars had previously stopped to see what he was doing. they all witnessed it. he had broke the law on 2 counts but state troopers did not site him because of some rule i had forgot. The sign 'no hunting' within that stretch of hwy was missing so he wasn't sited. it was an oversight to say the least. no doubt he got his rush but don't know what became of this no good's court case. I emailed this pic to soldotna f&g Jeff Selenger and he said it looked to be the same bear. In town, some people had shot a different brownie to hell when he wasn't causing harm. (but then always the case it could have) He ended up wounded walking along side Kbeach Rd. troopers drove out to put it down. I'm sorry but it just pisses me off that when people see a bear they just go nuts. their lives must be short of happiness.
     
  13. Jerry Daschofsky

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    Ok, heads up. If he wants a pistol/shotgun for possible bear defense, his choice. Let's put it back on topic now getting him a certain sidearm he may need if he goes that route. You can gladly go into the main forum (or the cast and blast) and bring up the shooting bears debate. :)

    Thank you and have a nice day. ;)
     
  14. Jim Riggins

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    I've hunted and fished my whole life, at least as long as I can remember. I work for law enforcement for Clark County and own everything from BB guns, pellet guns shot guns rifles a 22 pistol and a Ruger 9MM and know enough not loose my cool if and when I do meet up with a bear. I do know they usually don't give a damn if they do see us on the river or will turn and run away. All I was told was it might be a good idea if I brought some kind of protection with me. I have logged many many hours at our shooting range and know that I would be under gunned if I did take my 9MM so I was merely putting the word out that I might be interested in purchasing a larger weapon for my trip. I have never shot the shit out of a bear cub or anything else for that matter and I do know it's a pain in the ass if one does get shot. I didn't think of bear spray so I will be bringing some along but when I fish in far out of the way places down here in Clark or Cowlitz County I do carry due to all the dirt bags down here. I work in a jail and am pretty recognizable so I do protect myself and I will up there as well. I would probably pull out my Minolta before I pull out my 44mag. Thanks, you talked me into buying one!
     
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    Jim,

    In addition to the 44 and bear pepper spray, I suggest also taking a coach or common dog training whistle. Super easy to pack on a string around the neck with camera and such, so it's way more convenient than the boat air horn that is often recommended. You can use the whistle faster than either the pepper spray or pistol and don't have to aim it. I got a bear to turn 90 degrees away from camp while dinner was cooking by using the whistle. Haven't tried the pepper spray yet.

    Sg
     
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