Discussion in 'Fly Fishing Forum' started by Whitey, Apr 1, 2013.
Oh-are you supposed to tip a guide?
Where? Send me a link or PM me - Thanks
You must be sitting in the Cle Elum shop just waiting for customers to show. Nothing better to do?
I have to add my 2 cents, you were the best guide that my wife and I have been around. You earned the tip that everyone should be giving you. We will look forward to booking you for the next trip.
So Ed-that must mean my "guiding" on the Skagit this winter wasn't so hot? At least I had a heater to warm you up when you got wet! Rick
The river is apparently getting some sacrifices to the fish gods this week. I floated this stretch on Friday and lost a Winston Biix just upstream around the freeway bridge. If anyone comes up with it, please fish the hell out of it. Or return it for karma and as much reward as I can come up with.
Also ran into the same portage. Wasn't too bad, but it's good to know ahead of time.
I am relatively new, so feel free to tell me about wet flies that work or something about fishing streamers. No need to go too far in depth, just some basic 101 info. thanks.
I'm fishing that section today and will keep an eye out for it.
I'm back! River officially blown out from top to bottom
Last 3 days: worms and big stones. I know, crazy talk!
When you say, "wet flies" do you mean nymphs or classic fly patterns/soft hackle type stuff?
Streamers: first off, let's not get all "Kelly Gallup" up in here. Google him for advanced type stuff.
The classic swing: first off, let's identify the right water: moving downstream on both banks. Reading water is a skill most anglers have the most trouble with, it takes years to really fully understand. Your goal in to swing the fly in front of said fish, so start at the head of run, hell, maybe even above that like in the riffles or tail out of the run upstream. That way your swing will cover the very tip top of the run your trying to fish. Remember, after you cast, it takes time for your fly to sink and get in the zone. The cast: across and maybe a tad downstream. One big upstream mend, to help slow the speed down and allow your fly to sink. Keep your tip low and following your fly as it swings across the current. Try to keep the line straight. A big belly in the line and you lose some control, if this happens, mend. However, sometimes a downstream presentation is better....dang it, now I'm going all Kelly Gallop...never mind that part. Start with a short cast, then one a bit longer, maybe a third a bit farther. Take two steps downstream. Repeat. Your goal is cover as much water as possible, so keep moving. The hang down: this is when your fly has finished the swing and is hanging down directly below you. Keep it there for a few seconds, then strip your line back in. Start stripping slowly, pick up the pace as you get the fly closer to set up your next cast.
The tug is the drug. When we dry fly fish or nymph, Its visual, we see the fish eat the dry, we see the bobber go under. With streamers, it's a tug, tug, tug. If you get a tug, strip set. This means, instead of lifting the tip and stripping the line, as we would for dries or nymphs, keep the tip low and strip first and move the tip of the rod low and to the side. Which side? 180 degrees from where the strike occurred. With steelhead, sometimes it's advantagous to feed the fish a foot or two of line. Good anglers will keep a small amount of line loose behind there stripping finger, when the strike occurs, they let the loose line go, it forced the fly into the fish's face. Fish don't have hands, they use their mouth to investigate things.
My god. TMI? That was the simple answer!
Yeah, when are you taking me fishing too? You going to be in E-burg for the FFF event?
I'm not sure, I don't control my schedule, but I will put in a request. Always fun, good people, good times.
Where you at these days? Pestering Leland? Selling hackle in dark alleys?
Wow, I just looked at my conversations list, the first time Scoones yelled at me was in 2002! Mind=blown.
What do the ratings/points mean?
Yes to most of those questions, since I now work over at Orvis! Just part time, but it's fun and should get busy with our classes coming up. Been teaching casting and doing a bunch of other side stuff... Even been fishing a bit! Mostly on the beaches recently, although I made it out to the Yak in February.
Btw you'll be guiding a friend of mine later this month, Howard L. and his nephew! Think it's near the end of the month, but can't recall for sure!
Good for you amigo!
Beaches are fun. I could tell you all about my secret spots, but your boss has more game then Nintendo. For reals.
I'll be sure to interigate your friend Howard on why he hangs out with such unsavory characters....
Thanks Whitey for the info posted earlier. I was wondering about wet flies, not nymphing. PLEASE continue with my education. I do appreciate it!