Your favorite sculpin pattern

Discussion in 'Fly Tying' started by ganglyangler, Jul 26, 2013.

  1. jeff bandy

    jeff bandy Make my day

    Joined:
    Jan 19, 2006
    Messages:
    2,854
    Likes Received:
    1,127
    Location:
    Edmonds, Wa.
    Or a plug for that matter. That's what I like about the fish sculls. Drop one in the water, it swims down to the bottom then you just twitch it up fast. Works on those browns in Pass and the big Bows. in the Yakima canyon.
     
  2. GAT

    GAT Dumbfounded

    Joined:
    Nov 16, 2012
    Messages:
    7,124
    Likes Received:
    5,212
    Location:
    Willamette Valley, OR
    That is a technique that will most likely represent the movement of the real critter. The fly needs to be presented close to the bottom than rapidly moved around. And I mean rapidly. The sculpins I watched moved as quickly as The Flash ... but for only short distances.
     
  3. triploidjunkie

    triploidjunkie Active Member

    Joined:
    Feb 15, 2010
    Messages:
    3,342
    Likes Received:
    2,786
    Location:
    Grand Coulee, WA
    Fast or not, fish eat alot of sculpin. I think most of the ones they get are disoriented or sick/wounded. I love observing nature, and one memorable moment was watching 5-6# lahontans beach themselves chasing sculpins. I think the waves were dislodging the sculpins from the bottom, leaving them disoriented and confused. Surprisingly, most of the time the cutts got their meal. I'm surprised because it seems like lahontans have poor aim, often swiping at prey several times before connecting.
     
  4. Sean Beauchamp

    Sean Beauchamp Heavies...

    Joined:
    Jan 14, 2004
    Messages:
    2,341
    Likes Received:
    907
    Location:
    Mill Creek, WA, U.S.
    There is a difference between a sculpin moving around an aquarium and one in the river. Sculpins move in short bursts their huge pec fins are great at getting up to speed but they can't sustain it very long especially upstream. When a hunting trout flushes one out of the rocks they can catch it. No problem. When sculpin start scrambling around popping up out of the rocks to feed they enter the food chain and get whacked. If they get reckless and stray up a couple feet say good night. Trout that have developed a taste for sculpins rarely say no when opportunity arises.
     
  5. McNasty

    McNasty Canyon Lurker

    Joined:
    Aug 3, 2011
    Messages:
    1,213
    Likes Received:
    716
    Location:
    Somewhere Near Selah, WA
    i can't think of a species of trout/char around where i live that hasn't coughed up a sculpin or had one in its mouth when caught. i like your observations Gene but i think Sean nailed it. hell ive even found big sculpin choked to death on smaller sculpin still in their mouth.
     
  6. Jack Devlin

    Jack Devlin Active Member

    Joined:
    Oct 16, 2011
    Messages:
    1,459
    Likes Received:
    1,384
    Location:
    Western Washington, Puget Sound area
    Muddler type patterns still work for me. Then again, I'm old fashioned.
    Jack
     
  7. Jack Devlin

    Jack Devlin Active Member

    Joined:
    Oct 16, 2011
    Messages:
    1,459
    Likes Received:
    1,384
    Location:
    Western Washington, Puget Sound area
    Jim,
    I am also a fan of the Rolled Muddler and I particularly enjoy tying it as close to the original pattern as possible i.e. the arrow shaped head and the little bit of red thread (gills) showing behind the head.
    An all time great pattern.
    Keep in mind that Tom Murray, the fly's originator, intended the fly to be an imitation of saltwater beach sticklebacks and not sculpin. But, who is to say what a Sea-run sees when it nails one!
    Jack
     
  8. Sawyer

    Sawyer Active Member

    Joined:
    Feb 19, 2014
    Messages:
    183
    Likes Received:
    55
    So what I'm taking from this is, you don't need a sculpin that will sink to the bottom. And a Muddler minnow on a sinking line would probably do the trick in less than 6 feet of water?
    The other thing is, from what I've read is Chester Allan catches SRC in Muddlers regularly
     
  9. cnnorgil

    cnnorgil Member

    Joined:
    Oct 9, 2011
    Messages:
    65
    Likes Received:
    15
    Location:
    Sammamish WA


    Ive used the fly and Alaska, Washington and Idaho and it's my go to sculpin pattern anywhere!
     
  10. Philster

    Philster Active Member

    Joined:
    Feb 25, 2003
    Messages:
    2,918
    Likes Received:
    325
    Location:
    .
    It's hard to beat a properly sized unweighted wooly bugger, with a split just up the tippet. Woolies are some of the best sculpin and craw patterns. Plus they cast so much easier than the realistic patterns. Cast quartering upstream with a floating line and a long leader to get near the bottom. Manage your line and let the fly drift with periodic short quick strips. The shot, as much as you need to get down, up the tippet (2 or 3 inches) gives it great action. I never weighted my buggers. put the weight on the leader.