Z-axis of shot guns??

Discussion in 'Fly Fishing Forum' started by seattleangler, Dec 28, 2008.

  1. seattleangler

    seattleangler Member

    Joined:
    Feb 23, 2005
    Messages:
    61
    Likes Received:
    0
    Location:
    Seattle, WA
    I'm new to upland hunting and looking to invest in a decent 12 ga. I'm looking for a shotgun that's akin to the Sage Z-axis (or XP) of fly rods. In other words high end main stream, but nothing fancy. Would a Browing Citori 625 Field be akin to the Z-axis? What about the Fausti guns that Cabelas now carries? Your help is much appreciated.
     
  2. FLGator

    FLGator Member

    Joined:
    Jan 25, 2005
    Messages:
    655
    Likes Received:
    2
    Location:
    PNW
    What type of shotgun are you looking for? Autoloader? Benelli would be my first choice.

    However, one that fits YOU is most important.
     
  3. seattleangler

    seattleangler Member

    Joined:
    Feb 23, 2005
    Messages:
    61
    Likes Received:
    0
    Location:
    Seattle, WA
    I'm looking for an over & under, I think.
     
  4. shotgunner

    shotgunner Anywhere ~ Anytime

    Joined:
    Sep 21, 2008
    Messages:
    820
    Likes Received:
    227
    Location:
    45th Parallel NW Michigan
    Best BANG for the buck!

    Give us some parameters, at least a $ ceiling :thumb:
     
  5. seattleangler

    seattleangler Member

    Joined:
    Feb 23, 2005
    Messages:
    61
    Likes Received:
    0
    Location:
    Seattle, WA
    $2500 ceiling, over and under style, used for both field and trap. I don't know enough to tell you more.
     
  6. shawn k

    shawn k Member

    Joined:
    May 24, 2005
    Messages:
    697
    Likes Received:
    18
    Location:
    buckets worldwide
    dont buy a 12 gauge if all you are going to do is upland bird hunt. Get a 20 or 28 gague
    I am partial to berettas but I also have a browning citori.
     
  7. Jmills81

    Jmills81 The Dude Abides

    Joined:
    Jan 3, 2007
    Messages:
    2,054
    Likes Received:
    295
    Location:
    Spokane, WA
    ahh, sure, if you are hunting release site birds, but a 12 gauge is standby on wild birds when your only shot could be a long one

    From Quail to Pheasants, a 12 is the most versitile gun in my opinion

    der ya go

    A Beretta 687 could be a nice choice for you. That's a hell of a gun
     
  8. Guy Gregory

    Guy Gregory Active Member

    Joined:
    Feb 13, 2003
    Messages:
    498
    Likes Received:
    80
    Location:
    Spokane, WA.
    There are many fine o/u guns. I'm partial to brownings, weatherby makes a fine gun, the italians are sexy too. You'll only be happy with a gun that fits. It's that important. It ain't like a fly rod, it must fit.

    I personally think the benelli autoloader is the most versatile, most reliable, and easiest to fit. I sold a nice browning o/u to get it. But I understand.

    Get a 12 ga. Again, more versatile than the others.
     
  9. Connor H

    Connor H Bobbers n Beadz

    Joined:
    Jul 3, 2007
    Messages:
    932
    Likes Received:
    9
    Location:
    Ellensburg, WA
    CITORI!!! I think the rugers are pretty B\A though...
     
  10. Jason Decker

    Jason Decker Active Member

    Joined:
    Aug 5, 2005
    Messages:
    2,626
    Likes Received:
    5
    Location:
    Issaquah, WA
    Home Page:
    go talk to Pete at Creekside in Issaquah. He is a hard core birder.
     
  11. gt

    gt Active Member

    Joined:
    Sep 18, 2005
    Messages:
    2,616
    Likes Received:
    6
    Location:
    sequim, WA
    as a long time shotgunner, 28ga for upland birds choked IC/IC. this is 1/8 oz less shot than the 20ga and a great deal lighter and way more fun to use frequently. i prefer the O/U over other actions for upland.

    best thing is to go shoot some at a skeet range to see which stocks fit the best. there is a world of difference in the combs of these off the shelf units. length of pull can easily be accomodated by a competent gun smith.
     
  12. greyghost

    greyghost Member

    Joined:
    Apr 30, 2004
    Messages:
    507
    Likes Received:
    2
    Location:
    Coastal Rivers, OR
    I have a Beretta 685 O/U 12 ga. that I love, but the fixed chokes make it very expensive to shoot anything non-toxic. Tungsten is running about $2.50 / shell.
     
  13. Itchy Dog

    Itchy Dog Some call me Kirk Werner

    Joined:
    Aug 22, 2005
    Messages:
    3,877
    Likes Received:
    544
    Location:
    Doo-vall
    Home Page:
    I have that gun as well, and love it. O/U guns just feel nicely balanced. However, if I were to have just one shotgun, it would be my Benelli SBE. It's not an overly heavy beast (so easy to tote while chukar hunting), mounts and shoots real nicely, is a snap to clean, and shoots 3" and 3.5". It's a do-everything gun, from upland to waterfowl to turkey. Shoots buckshot at coyotes nicely, too. I also have a Z-Axis. :thumb:
     
  14. Jeremy Floyd

    Jeremy Floyd fly fishing my way through life

    Joined:
    Oct 13, 2006
    Messages:
    2,719
    Likes Received:
    523
    Location:
    Quesnel, BC
    I have a Franchi 612vs. It is an automatic.

    It is a good gun. since 2002 only one shell has stove piped in it and that was my fault for not flipping the piston on it for low base shells.

    It will cycle with the lowest target loads. You can invert the piston for shooting high base and it greatly reduces the recoil and barrel rise. I have the matching 20 gauge too that I have had since the 70's so it is a tried design with many years of service.
     
  15. rick matney

    rick matney Active Member

    Joined:
    Sep 26, 2007
    Messages:
    1,297
    Likes Received:
    4
    Location:
    Bozeman, Montana
    The silver pigeon, baretta (sp?) 20 gauge. 12 guage is overrated in my opinion. I have a side by side 410 that I love hunting pheasent with. Tight groups fun to shoot. Leathal if you know what you are doing.