no worries martyg. i come at this from the perspective of competition shooting where a 'normal' weekend would be 500-1000 rounds. one gets very atuned to fit and reliability over the course of years of doing this sort of shooting. it is my experience that a well balanced 12 is different than a 20 is different than a 28 or the 'experts gun of choice' the 410. finding a light weight 12ga is an open invitation to a punishing piece. the beretta's are great shotguns IF you have a skinny face. my rounded face would come away black and blue. the old browning belgian made O/U's are still my all time favorites and i wouldn't sell them for anything. they have performed with that sort of competition use for about 20 consecutive years of shooting without a single issue. don't know about the citori, have shot several, but i am not privy to reliability info. the very best thing you can do is visit a skeet range, not a trap range, where they actually use all 4 gauges. introduce yourself to the range master and get some guidance. chances are very good that on a weekend of shooting, the range master might introduce you to some folks who would be more than happy to let you try some different mfg's products. all that said, i would still highly recommend the 28ga for upland birding, IC/IC with a 26" barrel. the 20ga, IC/M with 26" barrels makes a great waterfowling gun for early more lightly feathered birds. once the big 'northerns' show up, its time for the 12ga, IC/M, 26" barrels. having had the opportunity to shoot some fine works of art worth more than my retirement account, i might suggest you check out the various BBs which list guns for sale. if you keep checking, you might just find what you are looking for at a reasonable price.