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    Steelhead on the nymph



    I saw this fish and made one cast to it with a caddis larva. I saw it move to the fly and witnessed the take and first couple of head shakes. She was hooked deep in the mouth.


    And people say steelhead do not eat while in freshwater.


    Photo: Andy Simon



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    1. Steelie Mike

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    chadk

    Be the guide...
    Nice job. Is biting without swallowing considered eating? (no dirty jokes please...)


    Did you check for stomach contents?
    #1 9-1-06 5:35pm

    Zen Piscator

    Supporting wild steelhead, gravel to gravel.
    Yep, I did. we didnt find much but I thought I found some caddis, very torn up. I beleive these fish do sometimes generate stomach acids
    #2 9-1-06 6:11pm

    TomB
    taking something in the mouth is different than eating...eating or feeding means digestion, and that is not possible for most steelhead in fresh water
    #3 9-1-06 7:14pm

    Jason Decker
    Nice Fish Mike! Congrats!!!


    TomB - don't be such a killjoy and try to debate everything.


    How about a "Nice Fish Mike!" and be done with it rather than being such an antagonist.


    The Fly is clearly in the mouth! nuff said! pictures prove Mike's point.


    if a steelie takes a nymph or a dry, which they do. rather than hitting a streamer out of agression, the dry and nymph show a fish is eating similar to its rainbow bretheren. if it gets to the point of digestion, the only way to find out is to suction the fish, pump its stomach or open it up to see...... like Chadk suggests


    either way, Mike's catch is a true prize and shows his skill matches his name!
    it is hard enough to catch steelies and even harder to do it this way. job well done Mike!!
    #4 9-1-06 8:45pm

    HogWrangler
    God you love calling people killjoys.
    #5 9-1-06 8:46pm

    Jason Decker
    the name fits the behavior..... better than something else like nitpicker or other words that come to mind.


    the guy(mike) is stoked to catch that fish and is sharing his prize catch and TomB turns it into a debate. theres no fun in that.
    #6 9-1-06 8:48pm

    chadk

    Be the guide...
    In this case, I see Mike's comments on the pic as inviting a discussion. So I think Tom was not nitpicking or being a killjoy.... this time.... Smile
    #7 9-1-06 9:14pm

    Jason Decker
    point taken Chadk....this time.....;)
    #8 9-1-06 11:22pm

    Jason Decker
    oh by the way......... did I mention....
    NICE FISH MIKE!
    #9 9-1-06 11:22pm

    TomB
    sorry...did not intend to be a killjoy...this time (hehe). Nice fish buddy!!!
    #10 9-1-06 11:28pm

    Steelie Mike
    I would love to see a study about what you find in steelhead stomachs in regards to food/bugs etc as well as learn more about the physiology of steelhead. I am sure there are a lot of varying factors including location, time in freshwater and physiological demands in their travel that would need to be taken into consideration.


    There are always going to be critics in regards to different ideas in forums like this. It is part of the process of learning more in this community. In regards to Tom, you can see he has a lot of love for the game regardless of his constant criticism and lectures. Much of what he basis his thoughts on is what he has read and studies and to a certain percentage, what he has seen. Some of us including myself take experience a little more into consideration than what I have read because I have seen it first hand. So we will have varying philosophies. I have been fortunate to have gutted a few fish over the years that have had insects and eggs in their bellies. Now whether the fish have been able to break them down enough to get nourishment I do not know.


    From what I have seen however is that summer steelhead will eat/target varying food sources when available. I do not think they will aggressively feed however in most cases because they are saving their energy for something more important. That is why I did not do a lot of studying in college, I was saving my energy for more important things Smile.
    #11 9-1-06 11:49pm

    Zen Piscator

    Supporting wild steelhead, gravel to gravel.
    I find digested food in steelheads stomachs, anyone else?
    #12 9-2-06 1:14am

    COREY S
    I have found plenty in steelhead's tummies I never really checked to see how digested it was. I once caught a steelie that was just plump with someone's cured eggs, this one moved six feet on a poorly placed cast to inhale, even before it was a foot deep a hard to believe egg pattern. Full of neon eggs? I think that they probably feed much more than people think. Hard for me to believe that a fish can only live on fat reserves and muscles for eight months or more.
    #13 9-2-06 6:36am

    Jason Decker
    i don't think it's always a matter of "either/or" approach, where ideas and philosophies become polarized. IMHO, i think there is always a grain of truth in both sides of discussion on any topic, thus it helps to approach things sometimes with a "both/and" approach! especially since fish and fishermen are both changing our methods of behavior due to the ever challenging and changing way the world and mother nature are constantly changing.... unfortunately mostly for the worse in the case of fish biology, habitat and food sources.
    The amazing White Paper from the Wild Steelhead Coalition is a good example of this..... so in my uneducated theory, text book ideas are losing place to the sad fact that fish are forced to adapt to progessively worse opportunities to feed, reproduce and survive
    #14 9-2-06 8:38am

    John Hicks

    Owner and operator of Sea Run Pursuits
    Gee I saw 14 responses to this pic and thought damn a lot of people like this photo but no its just another flame war. BTW Andy and Mike are no longer allowed to fish together (to leathal). If anyone on this board sees them together with their rods in hand they have every right to bonk them and see what contents are in their stomachs.
    #15 9-2-06 3:18pm

    Steelie Mike
    John you have been smoking that East Coast stuff a little too much. You need to come home and get some real fishing done.


    Oh and I am sure you will find Andy's stomach to be full of shite.
    #16 9-3-06 4:07am


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