I hear you Rick. I was born there but have to agree. Just when I meet one that seems OK I run into one that fits the profile !! I had the misfortune of running into 2 of them week before last over on the Beav. I'm stalking some fish on Brent property when I hear the loudest most obnoxious sounding guy I've heard in a long time. Here he comes walking towards me down on the bank while I was on a high bank behind some bushes. So he comes on down not paying attention and I yell at him that I'm above and spotting fish. He gives me a look and proceeds to get up on the bank in clear sight and spooks all the fish in the run. comes up and asks how the fishing was and I just tell him what he did. Not wearing any glasses and spooking fish all the way down stream with wakes going everywhere he looks shocked. Whatever the next 10 minutes I have to listen to him brag about how good the resevoir was. I guess they're on my list again !!! The Utards were out in force too. Every night a new group of them would be up at the Buff all decked out in the latest camo and face paint on. It was NICE !!!