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    Copper John

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    Copper John

    This has been one of my 3 best nymphs in the past year. Not sure why, but when i have fished it with a pheasant tail tyed in the same proportions, fish seem to prefer it about every time.


    1. Zen Piscator

      Supporting wild steelhead, gravel to gravel.
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      Registered: May 2004
      Location: Missoula, MT
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  1. Monk

    I have had the same results. I figured that maybe the copper messed with their lateral lines or something. Anyways, nice looking fly.
    #1 1-5-05 6:48am

    Zen Piscator

    Supporting wild steelhead, gravel to gravel.
    Doubt that, but it has many of the important triggers that fish seem to key in on. Thick abdomen, comparetivly think thorax, prominate tail, flash, and iredesense. Also very heavy with bead, lead wire up front, and the wire thorax.
    #2 1-6-05 12:24am

    Is this a good lake pattern?
    #3 5-25-05 3:16am

    Zen Piscator

    Supporting wild steelhead, gravel to gravel.
    It does really look like much in a lake, to fat to be a baetis nymph, but stockers seem to like it. Its great on rivers, this style looks like alot of different clinger mayflies.
    #4 5-25-05 4:15am


    AKA Joe Willauer
    thats a strange looking bug, i think i might try fishing one some time
    #5 5-25-05 4:45am

    Zen Piscator

    Supporting wild steelhead, gravel to gravel.
    Ya, pretty new, i dont think anyone but me has heard of them... :D
    #6 5-25-05 5:07am


    Brock Lafferty
    Oh, I have. Just started tying them up for this summer. Mostly blue, black, red and green. Also some zebra style ones, but haven't had a chance to try them yet. Hey Andy, do you use the 5-minute epoxy on the wing case like the original recipe called for?

    #7 5-25-05 5:12am

    Zen Piscator

    Supporting wild steelhead, gravel to gravel.
    I was trying to be sarcastic, its probably the most popular fly pattern in the lower 48 right now. Top selling fly for cabelas and many fly shops. No epoxy, waste of time when i could be fishing.
    #8 5-25-05 6:17am

    mike doughty

    Honorary Member
    So far i think they suck. i have tied a butt load of these up and have'nt caught a damn thing yet with one and for some reason (they look cool) i keep trying them.
    #9 5-25-05 8:04pm

    It's been a great goto pattern for me.......I should start tying them myself...I seem to just pick a few up here and there when I'm in the shop buying materials.
    #10 6-18-05 11:41pm

    Old Man

    Just an Old Man
    Hey,Zen. You got a recipe for this bad boy. I've did a search for it on the web but couldn't come up with anything that looks like this one. Saw lots but nothing that looks this good.
    #11 6-19-05 3:32pm

    Zen Piscator

    Supporting wild steelhead, gravel to gravel.
    Jim, i will put one along with photos in the patterns section of the site.
    #12 6-20-05 7:57pm

    Old Man

    Just an Old Man
    Hey Zen,I'm still waiting for the recipe.
    #13 7-6-05 6:38am

    Zen Piscator

    Supporting wild steelhead, gravel to gravel.
    OM, I have the pics done for the recipie, sorry i have been fishing.

    The fly is self explanitory really:
    Tail: pheasant tail, 4 barbs
    Body: Copper wire
    Wingcase: Pheasant tail and k-flash
    Thorax: Peacock herl
    Legs: Tips of Pheasant used in making wing case
    Copper Bead
    Whatever hook

    Instructions to come
    #14 7-6-05 7:14am

    The Copper John fly is an excellent nymphing fly for steelhead as well. That and the Brassie. This past fall when the steelies slowed down on egg patterns, I switched to the Copper John and The Brassie and caught a lot of steelies. Tie in sizes 10 and 12. These flies especially the Brassie are very easy to tie and quick to boot. I sit down at night while listening to the stereo and pump out 30 to 50 of em. One of the easiest nymphs to tie and most least for me anyway.

    Good job on the bench...Zen Piscator
    #15 1-11-06 6:13am

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