Hi Gary my name is Danny, I am probably behind the times as well, I am 35. That was my attempt at making you laugh. I was merely saying maybe we should see if we get along before we go spilling our guts about our favorite patterns. You probably would'nt want to help some jerk catch fish, and either would I. I'm just a family man who loves to tie flies and catch fish. I apologize if I offended you with the scud dangler comment, but I know some people use that technique to snag fish. Anyway I'll see you on the board, and maybe we can meet at the ford sometime. sorry im not funny. Danny