indicators in fly only water?

FinLuver

Active Member
#47
"Even the N Umpqua has relaxed its strict policies on the fly only water- sink tip lines allowed. "

Well...yes and no.
Please reread....time of year constraints.

Also, the rules are almost written identical (if not the same) for the N Umpqua and Metolius; BUT. the interpretation of those rules are different. (I made the calls to both ODFW field offices and the OSP divisions)...just thought you should know.
 

bennysbuddy

the sultan of swing
#49
I saw what I thought was a native citizen multiply indicator rig, turns out it was ceremonial gill net fished in the traditional native method.
 

Rob Allen

Active Member
#50
I can't speak to the wording in washington's regs, but Oregon has many fly fishing only waters and most allow indicators. If you look at the regs for the fly only stretch of the North Umpqua it explicitly outlaws things that are allowed on all the other "fly only" waters.


best fishing regulation ever...
 

bennysbuddy

the sultan of swing
#51
Back to the original question

Some responders have stated definitively that indicators are legal on flyfishing only waters.

I'm curious what is the basis for this.

As I read the regs, the language is " angler may use ONLY the following tackle ... Flies... Fly line... Backing.... Leader.... " and not "fixed spool reels ... Bait... Weight attached to the leader or line". ...

In flyfishing only waters an indicator would be something that is not among the ONLY items that are listed and allowed above.

What am I missing here? Or am I overthinking it?

J
Hey that's the same thing I'm reading,, that means no pitch forks,buzz bombs,or chemical weapons even if they are attached to a piece of fly line . It seems so simple !!
 

Salmo_g

Well-Known Member
#52
The superiority complex that some swingers have is down right hilarious. You just don't find indicator fisherman self righteously continuing to put down another group of fisherman.
Ira,

It's not that bobber fishermen wouldn't be self righteous if they had something to be self righteous about. And they don't put down other fishermen because they first would have to find and identify a lower life form of fishing in order to put it down.

See how simple it is? Glad I was able to help clear this up for you.

Oh, and to the O.P. I love babies, Yes, bobber fishing on the NF Stilly in the summer season is illegal, immoral, and unethical, and causes zits, and you will go to hell if you do it. Other than that, it's pretty much OK and fits in well with the local salmon snaggers.

Sg

t.i.c., sorta'
 

Irafly

Indi "Ira" Jones
#55
Ira,

It's not that bobber fishermen wouldn't be self righteous if they had something to be self righteous about. And they don't put down other fishermen because they first would have to find and identify a lower life form of fishing in order to put it down.

See how simple it is? Glad I was able to help clear this up for you.

Oh, and to the O.P. I love babies, Yes, bobber fishing on the NF Stilly in the summer season is illegal, immoral, and unethical, and causes zits, and you will go to hell if you do it. Other than that, it's pretty much OK and fits in well with the local salmon snaggers.

Sg

t.i.c., sorta'

Well, I used to have respect for you Salmo_g but somewhere in that ignorant self righteous post it disappeared.

Now to address the ignorance, indicator fisherman from shore on a river need to be far more skilled as fisherman than swingers, there really is no debate in that is there? So first identified lower life form of fishing in this case would be swingers. So there you go, we indicator fisherman could put down and be self righteous about our skill set and then after that we could be self righteous about catching more fish. Swingers I believe tend to try to demonize indicator fisherman because they need to believe beyond the kool aid drinking slogan of "the tug is the drug" that there really is something more to the swinging/lack of success that they have decided to dedicate themselves too. They like to claim that it is more of an accomplishment to catch a steel on a swung fly than it is to catch one indicator fishing because they choose to use an inferior method. I could say that it is more of an accomplishment to pick up all the dog crap in my yard with a tooth pick versus a pooper scooper and therefore look down upon all those who do it any different. See to me that is where the joke really lies, that false sense of superiority and when I hear and see it, it makes me laugh. There you go again, I'm starting to show my superiority and righteousness. But in the big picture, I'm glad that so many people have bought into the mystique of the swung fly, good on them for that and maybe I should encourage more people to do it instead of less.

Now Salmo_g if you have ever read any of my other posts about this subject you can take from this what you will.

;)
 
#58
It's well acknowledged thst bobber fishing a nymph is deadly. No argument.
Is swinging a "less effective" technique? Maybe if you don't master it. However if you try to accomplish the same mending mastery/ seam reading/ drift control with a more traditional presentation I think your success rate will climb quickly.

Is it more difficult to learn to present a fly at the exact depth/ current seam? I think so. Is it impossible? Not at all.
 

Irafly

Indi "Ira" Jones
#59
And then you have the nymphers with Napolean Complex. That, in itself, is just as hilarious.

You've seen me before, you know I'm not short so you must be referring to someone else. Of course how bad really is it to be compared to Napolean? Dude did conquer most of a continent.
 
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PT

Physhicist
#60
Napoleon complex, or "short man syndrome", is a pejorative slang term describing a type of psychological phenomenon which is said to exist in people, usually men, of short stature.[1] It is characterized by overly-aggressive or domineering social behaviour, and carries the implication that such behaviour is compensatory for the subjects' stature. The term is also used more generally to describe people who are driven by a perceived handicap to overcompensate in other aspects of their lives. Other names for the term include Napoleon syndrome[2] and Short Man syndrome.[3]
 

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