Soap Lake Posse
Alex again the Carlton Complex is what burned Pateros. The year after is the fire that killed the firefighters in Twisp. The Carlton Complex had an incredible rate of spread. If you look at the map the writing was on the wall by the second day. Could all four fires have been put out with a huge initial attack? Maybe but who funds the resources for this initial attack to be on standby? I dont believe for one second the stand down order happened before the 3rd day where the firestorm happened and the fire went 25 miles. The local department were very much fighting the fires closest to Carlton and they were not able to contain even the fire closest to the road! In this case with those weather conditions it was probably the right decision and although the home owners didnt agree it probably saved firefighter lives. You can't put out a fire that goes 25 miles in a night. I believe the stand down was the right call. I dont know the story about the ambulance and not stopping but again did the ambulance crew even see the citizens needing help? Its so easy to place blame after a situation like this. I mean could you not blame those who cut the budget for firefighting? What party is that Alex?Don't think so, Billy. Pateros burned in the first fire, but a year later was another one. We have several good friends in Winthrop and Mazama. The story we got was, (this is about the first, biggest one) state firefighters and volunteers were ordered to stand down, and not engage the fire. This included the local smokejumpers, who first called it in and were ready to jump on them right away. They were all told to stay out, and then the feds did absolutely nothing until they merged and got out of control. In the big meeting a year later at Brewster, sheriff's deputies had to protect that asshole Goldmark because people were so angry. It was on his orders that state resources were put on hold-according to our friends who attended the meeting. One man died of a heart attack while working to clear a fireline around his property. His wife and friends helping, tried to flag down emergency personnel, but they refused to stop-this from the eye witnesses. Don't know if they could have saved him if they had stopped, but they sure as hell didn't help him.
And I've never allowed either brush or trees anywhere near my home, along with a metal roof, stucco sides.
It's easy to say they should have put the fire out in a day. To anyone that thinks like that volunteer and get on the line. Good Luck.