Yes correct. And perhaps this weighed heavy on incident commands head...and rightly so.Thanks for boiling it down accurately and well Billy. Just about every day that week was in the mid 90s, many of them with decent winds. Only correction I have to make is that the fire that many of the Granite Mountain Hotshot crew died in was 2013, the year prior to the Carlton Complex.
I'm not arguing to let things burn. I do appreciate your honest response. My point is that they were doing what they could. Here is a little blurb I found. The Stokes fire was the closest to town.First thing I'd need to know is where my helicopters are. If I were wise I'd have them ready and nearby. Then I'd drop shitloads of water on the fires and try to get some firefighters to make sure the fire is dead from the water, retardant or whatever, fire dead stuff! Every fire should be killed as early as possible and it doesn't matter if anyone disagrees because they are wrong. I did once try to qualify for a fire crew but I was too fast on my feet so they figured I'd jump into the fire, I didn't get to go.
Truth is this isn't funny. It's very serious and if we don't try to put fires out ASAP we're asking for trouble. We should never let them burn because they won't damage buildings or structures. Fires always burn things we'd prefer they didn't burn, even forests and wild lands. I don't care if fire is a natural consequence of nature. As educated humans we should know that letting things burn is the wrong choice, always!
Klick should read the book, "The Control of Nature" by John McPhee. It's human folly to believe that man can control nature, except in some lucky instances.
we can agree to disagree and you know I respect your opinion...i just want to say one thing thoughHey Billy,tell you what: I'll introduce you to the guy who lost his friend in that first one (I wasn't referring to the firefighters who were killed near Twisp), and you can hear it first-hand from him--he was there. He owns the KOA in Winthrop. Doesn't really matter though, in the long run, to quote that clinton bitch..."what difference does it make" at this point. A guy died. EMS refused to stop to help him. Local fire units were ordered to stand down. State fire dozers sat idle on the side of the road while the fire raged. Resources were not used until it was too late. Those are the facts of this fire, as reported by the eye-witnesses, and confirmed by recordings of the radio traffic at the time. Bottom line-they fucked up, and they know it.