You gotta love the NEW EPA!

#18
"EPA is brought to heel" WTF! are you serious? You do realize what you said. Your the guy that spews Mansanto in your back yard. You know, your own personal toxic dump!
 
#22
What type of noxious weeds are you pulling and what size acreage are we talking about?
Just a good sized back yard with Mexican Parcely, tulip looking bastards, and what my wife refers to as succulents. Now some folks are selling the Mexican Parcely at the farmers market so I may let that stuff grow and become a capitalist. Naaaaaahhhh, just keep on pulling. I would have a friend come in with a back hoe before I would put chemicals from Monasanto or Dupont on my yard. We live in the norther Señoran desert and accept the fact that less than 10 inches of rainfall is natural. That said, we don't need a lawn that looks like one of your boy POTUS's golf greens.
 

Gene S

Active Member
#23
I would have a friend come in with a back hoe before I would put chemicals from Monasanto or Dupont on my yard.
GT - Mexican parsley?? You really need to learn about the problems that noxious weeds pose and why they are so difficult to control. One of many reasons why they are hard to control is because many plants have a rhizome root system; a new plant will emerge when any part of the root system is left behind. Many noxious weeds have 10' to 30' horizontal root systems making digging or pulling impractical. In addition pulling a plant or digging out plants disturb the soil which then encourage more seeds to germinate. As an example one mature dalmatian toadflax plant can have as many as 500,000 seeds annually just laying in wait, with seeds being able to lay dormant for up to ten years.

There are selective chemicals (EPA approved) when used properly are safe and the only way to control many noxious weeds. Often times we have to use a cocktail of chemicals for the eradication of certain plants. Another way of control on large tracts of land is by grazing. As much as some forum members whine about grazing allotments if federal lands were off limits to cattle grazing there would be a monumental weed control problem to deal with. As noted on another thread we have brought in several llama's to help in controlling invasive weeds but they can only deal with a small part of the overall problem.

The noxious weeds we currently target:

Dalmatian toadflax has a tap root that can go as deep as ten feet, but will also produce lateral roots that can extend out from the parent plant for ten to twelve feet. These seeds can remain viable for up to ten years and each plant can produce up to 500,000 seeds annually. Dalmatian toadflax reproduces by seed and by root.
http://mtweed.org/weeds/dalmatian-toadflax/

Yellow toadflax can produce up to 30,000 seeds annually. Yellow toadflax has an extensive horizontal root system and it reproduces through creeping roots or by seed.
http://mtweed.org/weeds/yellow-toadflax/

Canada thistle can reach heights of four feet and forms deep and extensive root systems, making it difficult to control. Creeping horizontal roots sprout new plants and can reach more than nineteen feet in one season. These roots can also go as deep as twenty two feet. One plant is capable of producing over 3,000 seeds annually. This plant reproduces by both seed and root, but primarily from the roots.
http://mtweed.org/weeds/canada-thistle/

Russian knapweed is a perennial that differs from diffuse and spotted knapweed primarily in that it has a rhizomtous, or extensive, root system. Russian knapweed can grow up to three feet in height and forms dense colonies due to this root system. Seeds are ivory white and have hairy tips which fall off the seed as it matures. A single plant may produce up to 1,200 seeds annually.
http://mtweed.org/weeds/russian-knapweed/

Houndstongue is a biennial forb that forms a deep tap root and basal rosette the first year. It reproduces from seed only and each plant can produce up to 2,000 seeds. The plant dies after its second year.
http://mtweed.org/weeds/houndstongue/

Llamas at work:
IMG_0963.jpg
 
#24
GT - Mexican parsley?? You really need to learn about the problems that noxious weeds pose and why they are so difficult to control. One of many reasons why they are hard to control is because many plants have a rhizome root system; a new plant will emerge when any part of the root system is left behind. Many noxious weeds have 10' to 30' horizontal root systems making digging or pulling impractical. In addition pulling a plant or digging out plants disturb the soil which then encourage more seeds to germinate. As an example one mature dalmatian toadflax plant can have as many as 500,000 seeds annually just laying in wait, with seeds being able to lay dormant for up to ten years.

There are selective chemicals (EPA approved) when used properly are safe and the only way to control many noxious weeds. Often times we have to use a cocktail of chemicals for the eradication of certain plants. Another way of control on large tracts of land is by grazing. As much as some forum members whine about grazing allotments if federal lands were off limits to cattle grazing there would be a monumental weed control problem to deal with. As noted on another thread we have brought in several llama's to help in controlling invasive weeds but they can only deal with a small part of the overall problem.

The noxious weeds we currently target:

Dalmatian toadflax has a tap root that can go as deep as ten feet, but will also produce lateral roots that can extend out from the parent plant for ten to twelve feet. These seeds can remain viable for up to ten years and each plant can produce up to 500,000 seeds annually. Dalmatian toadflax reproduces by seed and by root.
http://mtweed.org/weeds/dalmatian-toadflax/

Yellow toadflax can produce up to 30,000 seeds annually. Yellow toadflax has an extensive horizontal root system and it reproduces through creeping roots or by seed.
http://mtweed.org/weeds/yellow-toadflax/

Canada thistle can reach heights of four feet and forms deep and extensive root systems, making it difficult to control. Creeping horizontal roots sprout new plants and can reach more than nineteen feet in one season. These roots can also go as deep as twenty two feet. One plant is capable of producing over 3,000 seeds annually. This plant reproduces by both seed and root, but primarily from the roots.
http://mtweed.org/weeds/canada-thistle/

Russian knapweed is a perennial that differs from diffuse and spotted knapweed primarily in that it has a rhizomtous, or extensive, root system. Russian knapweed can grow up to three feet in height and forms dense colonies due to this root system. Seeds are ivory white and have hairy tips which fall off the seed as it matures. A single plant may produce up to 1,200 seeds annually.
http://mtweed.org/weeds/russian-knapweed/

Houndstongue is a biennial forb that forms a deep tap root and basal rosette the first year. It reproduces from seed only and each plant can produce up to 2,000 seeds. The plant dies after its second year.
http://mtweed.org/weeds/houndstongue/

Llamas at work:
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On this day of giving, I will pray for you Llamas.
 

creekx

spent spinner
#25
What middle class tax cut? Oh, do you mean the temporary one intended to mollify the proletariat and postpone a general uprising?
Because of Senate rules and only a simple majority they could not be permanent. They could be made permanent now with 60 votes, just need 8 Democrats to join - if it is important and all...
 

creekx

spent spinner
#28
But those same rules allow the cuts to be permanent for corporations and the ultra-rich? Please explain.
I will not defend the gamesmanship that both parties participate in. Again, if making certain aspects of the tax reform permanent is truly important they can make it happen tomorrow. We will see how genuine the concern is...
 
#30
I will not defend the gamesmanship that both parties participate in. Again, if making certain aspects of the tax reform permanent is truly important they can make it happen tomorrow. We will see how genuine the concern is...
OK, assuming what you say is true, are you saying it is OK for POTUS to get a $15 million raise while the offensive linemen in this country get, in your words, a permanent $18 tax cut? And please, something besides "I will not defend the gamesmanship that both parties participate in"
 

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