Shortening a spey rod

Charles Sullivan

ignoring Rob Allen and Generic
#1
I went fishing the other day. I was using a 13 ft 8/9 cnd . It is a powerful rod. I was curious how it would fish if it were a foot shorter. I slid my hands up the cork and cast it as though it was a little over 12 feet.
It seemed that it cast really well and I could see it as being a fine rod if a foot was taken off the butt section. Don't get me wrong, it's a fine rod now but the idea of having it a foot shorter for winter fishing has appeal. I am not going to cut the rod up but it got me thinking. Has anyone shortened a rod or blank? What were the results?

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bk paige

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#2
Yes, I know a guy that chopped of a foot or more from a CND North Fork, he wanted to make a switch rod out of it. Don't know how it casted, but damn, what a waste of a great rod.
 

Charles Sullivan

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#4
Yes, I know a guy that chopped of a foot or more from a CND North Fork, he wanted to make a switch rod out of it. Don't know how it casted, but damn, what a waste of a great rod.
Any modification to a cnd seems questionable. They are fine rods. Mine has a remarkable amount of juju and is a pleasure.
I do think that if it were 8 inches to a foot shorter it would be a great skagit rod. It already is now though.

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Charles Sullivan

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#5
Ed Ward was known to shorten up certain rods.
Makes sense. My curiosity stems from being curious if i could make a skagit rocket launcher. That has historically been Ed's deal too.
Wayne was saying that he used to add butt extensions to dome sage blanks. I.may try that as well.

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Klickrolf

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#6
If you were to cut the rod I'd suggest shortening the tip section instead of the butt. The lower section is where the real power comes from and missing a foot of wimpy tip might not bother you at all. I'd think keeping the power and losing some tip length and softness would be a better choice, just my 2cent. Guess it'd also mean your 510g head would need to be a 630 but that just means easier distance and heavier tips or flies, both.
 
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PhilR

In the time of chimpanzees, I was a monkey
#9
I built two rods from ARE 1307/8-4 blanks this winter. One I built full size, and the second I built as a 3 piece switch by dropping the butt section. It's still a light 8, but easier to handle on tighter coastal streams.
 

Charles Sullivan

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#10
I built two rods from ARE 1307/8-4 blanks this winter. One I built full size, and the second I built as a 3 piece switch by dropping the butt section. It's still a light 8, but easier to handle on tighter coastal streams.
This gets at what I was thinking. Did you use it to double hand cast a 10 foot rod? Did you cast a similar line on both rods?

That was the exact rod I was thinking of turning to turn into an 11'- 11'6' rod. It seems like for the cost it would be a fun game to try.

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Charles Sullivan

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#12
Why not just build a switch rod? There plenty out there.
Mostly I am curious.

Also, I have an old 11"6' forecast that I broke the tip to. I would love to have another similar rod in the quiver (I'd love the same one actually) but there are not too many available in the price range I would demand. I would not mind if it was a little more stout too. It seems like cutting back a 13 foot 8 or 9 wt may be optimal.

Lastly, I have been contemplating what rod I could build for my 10 year old daughter. She is small even for a 10 year old but I think I could teach her to cast 2 handed with the right rod. Then I could take her fishing, which she generally likes. She has salmon fished in the salt and in Mexico but I figure if I can get her on a steelhead then I will win parent of the year. I may start her 2 handed casting with a custom 9-10 foot glass rod though.

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bk paige

Wishin I was on the Sauk
#13
That 11' 6" forcast is one sweet rod, I've built 3 of them. Those Batson RX7 switch blanks are supper light and cast very we'll for the price. I have the 5wt and is supper fun rod, the tips are kinda week but is worth the money.