The Fateful Newbie First Thread Error

#31
This seems to repeat itself time after time where the new guy joins the forum and his first post asks for a fishing spot, not just any fishing spot but THE fishing spot.
They obviously don't realize or care how sensitive many of these fisheries are especially in the heavier populated areas.
Some guys I feel sorry for when they step in shit and then there's some that just don't get it and make me just shake my head. Maybe it's just me but it seems to be getting more prevalent as time goes on.

Do you think some required reading such as rules of etiquette or terms and conditions for new members prior to joining the forum would help?
I’m not asking for anyone’s secret fishing spots just somewhere I can go to throw some line. I am strictly catch and release. Forgive my new guy post poor etiquette thank you for the heads up.
 

Salmo_g

Well-Known Member
#32
Fishing has changed a lot since when many of us started. Remember the Good Ole Days? That was when most waters had nice fish and there were true secret holes with even nicer fish. Nowadays people fish for dinkers with 00 weight rods and get a thrill out of it. Really??

If a new member asks a question and it is without a nice intro - blast time. BUT if he/she is a vet with no intro, everything if fine. If it is a true youngster, like a high schooler, they also get a pass... Some new members come on here and try to sell equipment at outrageous prices in their first post. They are also treated poorly sometimes. Shouldn't they all be treated the same?

If the site does not continue to increase it's 'membership' it will become a bunch of grumpy old men. OOPPSS - maybe it is already... Part of being a grumpy old man, one of our respected elders, is that they share information along the way. We meet one stream side and they share information. We meet one at a show or over a beer and they share information. So when one comes on this site what the grumpy old men share is the cantankerous self that they have learned so well over time. Sheesh!

And what about protecting our secret holes? Sure they should be protected - if they even exist any more. But not being able to say a "S" river's name, or a large lake near a volcano - really? Some of the rivers that are not allowed to be referred to, like one that goes between two states (OR/MT), is over 250 miles long. That is one helluva secret fishing hole... Even blue ribbon rivers in MT that are widely publicized nationally are not even named...

Sure there have been some epic new members with ginormous attitudes resulting in epic and very long threads. But they are few and far between and are chased off after everyone piles on and get their jollies.

But can't we be a just a bit more compassionate and enjoy information sharing in a generalized way? New blood brings in new ideas and also allows the grumpy old men to relive memories long since forgotten.

<end of rant>
You're overlooking the most significant factor of all. Sharing location information person to person is low risk. Sharing location information on an internet forum means sharing it with the entire online world. And that, I submit, is the over-riding reason that people are cautious, even reluctant, to discuss very much detail pertaining to fishing locations. I have no qualms posting about going fishing on the Columbia River, but you and I would have to be pretty close friends before I'd share with you what river mile in what channel on what date and stage of tide I've found to be good for the king salmon bite.
 

Salmo_g

Well-Known Member
#33
I’m not asking for anyone’s secret fishing spots just somewhere I can go to throw some line. I am strictly catch and release. Forgive my new guy post poor etiquette thank you for the heads up.
No problem. You can go throw some line at Green Lake. There is a nice casting dock, which is nice because if you're casting from the shoreline, you're likely to hit walkers, joggers, and other passers by with your backcast.
 

Troutlife

Active Member
#34
I figure that there's no need to give up your favorite spot, but also no need to criticize those who ask. There are legitimate reasons to try and conserve your favorite spots, but those asking are not terrible people. They're just new, eager fly anglers looking for a place where they can practice, have a good time, and hook some fish. To any new members: Explore the tributaries to the Skykomish and the Snoqualmie river forks above the falls. Also, most high lakes that require a hike in will have fish.
 

Old Man

Just an Old Man
#35
I found this web site while I was looking for some fly fishing stuff. I'm kind of new at this kind of fishing but I'm 22 years old, Single, Have a good job. I just bought my first fly rod and reel and line, and kind of looking for some place to wet a line.

Oh wait a minute I can't do this. The internet is not around yet. This was in 1957. So I guess it's all a lie.

I don't remember my first post. I know it was in 1998. I got on here before I retired, I retired in 1999. I had been on several other fishing sites before this one. But they were gear ones. Some fly fishing. But I have been fishing in Washington State for many years before I really got into fly fishing. So I knew where to go to catch fish.

I fished mostly in the Greater Everett area, with a few forays into Eastern Washington. This was before the rivers and creeks in the Wenatchee area were closed down. I then had to go fish the Yakima.

I have since moved to Montana. Where the desire is there but the Get up and go isn't. I'm 83 and getting around is a chore. I try to get all set up a day before I go fish now as I seem to forget a few things. Little things but things.

Since the internet wasn't around I had to just go and hope for the best. But I found fish every time I went out. I kept what I caught because my dad like to eat the fish I caught. So I kept him well supplied. I just got tired of them all asking where to go. Just go pick a god damn river and go. It's that easy.
 
#36
This seems to repeat itself time after time where the new guy joins the forum and his first post asks for a fishing spot, not just any fishing spot but THE fishing spot.
They obviously don't realize or care how sensitive many of these fisheries are especially in the heavier populated areas.
Some guys I feel sorry for when they step in shit and then there's some that just don't get it and make me just shake my head. Maybe it's just me but it seems to be getting more prevalent as time goes on.

Do you think some required reading such as rules of etiquette or terms and conditions for new members prior to joining the forum would help?
I joined recently and made this mistake. I didn't realize that these were sensitive things to ask but quickly learned. I looked at the rules prior to posting as well.

It makes sense now, but at the time I did not know. It might be helpful to have something in the rules or a pinned thread that identifies FAQs ?

Q. What are some good spots to fish at?
A. Keep in mind that spots are typically ... / Get a map... / Look for skinnies
 

Old Man

Just an Old Man
#37
I joined recently and made this mistake. I didn't realize that these were sensitive things to ask but quickly learned. I looked at the rules prior to posting as well.

It makes sense now, but at the time I did not know. It might be helpful to have something in the rules or a pinned thread that identifies FAQs ?

Q. What are some good spots to fish at?
A. Keep in mind that spots are typically ... / Get a map... / Look for Squiggly Blue Lines
I fixed it for you.
 

nb_ken

Active Member
#39
Well now, if you're willing to pay me...:D
See, the internet ruined that too. Used to be able to make a respectable living writing about fishing, and stuff. Blogging about fishing doesn't pay shit. It's embarrassing what Schoones pays me to write here.

And we wonder why people come to this place expecting free information? Send'em towards the corn porn.

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Buzzy

Active Member
#41
I’m not asking for anyone’s secret fishing spots just somewhere I can go to throw some line. I am strictly catch and release. Forgive my new guy post poor etiquette thank you for the heads up.
Nice trout! It would help if we knew where you were at/live. Flight nurse: military? Welcome to the forum.
 
#42
If a new member asks a question and it is without a nice intro - blast time. BUT if he/she is a vet with no intro, everything if fine. If it is a true youngster, like a high schooler, they also get a pass... Some new members come on here and try to sell equipment at outrageous prices in their first post. They are also treated poorly sometimes. Shouldn't they all be treated the same?
I'm a high schooler and I didn't really get a pass:D However, I definitely could have been treated a lot worse.
 

Old Man

Just an Old Man
#43
A few of these new guys reached out to ey in the form of a PM. I told them where a few places were but not to blab about them. Good places to fish are hard too find. I'm not in Washington State anymore and I have a few places in my head. So I let a few out now and then.. But not on an open forum no matter what you have to do to get on/in here..
 

Old Man

Just an Old Man
#45
Umm....ah nevermind.
Me and you don't fish the same. I fish for smaller fish while you like the bigger fish. I also like to fish small water where I kind of enjoy myself. I'm only good for about an hour where you go all day.
I'm not much for floating rivers and I can't wade and hike up and down rivers. I usually go find myself someplace close to the road to fish and I do find these places. I did this on BSC and now on Warm Springs Creek. So leave me be to myself. I'm just an old man still trying to fish to have fun next to a road.
 

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