"Gillnets are selective".....

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bennysbuddy

I have. What do you want to know about it?
How is it you can set one out off Iceberg point in the height of the sockeye run and not catch a single fish after a three hour soak, I managed to do that once !
 

KerryS

Ignored Member
How is it you can set one out off Iceberg point in the height of the sockeye run and not catch a single fish after a three hour soak, I managed to do that once !
I think it has been done numerous times. I know I did the same more than once. Iceberg was my favorite drift.
 

Chris Johnson

Active Member
Sorry for posting a thread about gillnets and their selectivity. Didn't realize marijuana and gillnets were so related.
They are, a friend of mine caught a bale of Thai stick back in the 80's. Evidently some guys were ferrying the dope to shore in smaller runabouts and the federalies were in pursuit so the tossed the contraband overboard.
 
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Greg Armstrong

WFF Supporter
How is it you can set one out off Iceberg point in the height of the sockeye run and not catch a single fish after a three hour soak, I managed to do that once !
Because the seiners hit it hard and caught 'em all during the day before the gillnetters nighttime opening.

Iceberg Point's been a very popular net hole for a very long time.
 

Old Man

A very Old Man
WFF Supporter
Have fun with your throat cancer and man titties

I have gout- can’t drink beer. Too many years of being fat and drinking beer

I especially can’t drink unfiltered IPAs.
I have gout also but never noticed if it affected it by drinking beer. But I don't drink a lot of it. Don't like the Taste of Beer.
 

Buzzy

Active Member
Gillnets are selective. The Director is correct in repeating the gillnetters' propaganda about selectivity with respect to "time, area, and place." (Let me not that "area" and "place" are functionally equivalent) Gillnets by design select for fish whose size allows them to swim into the meshes of the gillnet and become caught. Sometimes fish become entangled in gillnets and become caught even though they are either smaller or larger than the intended quarry. What the Director and gillnet propagandists are leaving out is that gillnets don't and cannot select between ESA-listed or depressed runs of say, Chinook that overlap in time and place (or area if you prefer) with a more abundant hatchery run of Chinook that traverse the same area at the same time.

Bycatch is quite common when two or more species overlap in time and place also. The two species average size might be different (let's say 10# ave, chum and 8# ave. coho) but there is significant overlap in size, such that the "selective" 6 1/2" stretched mesh gillnet can be pretty efficient at harvesting all salmon in the range of 6 or 7 pounds up to about 16 pounds. So yes, the gillnet is absolutely selective in that it won't catch hardly any fish at all that are smaller than 6 pounds or larger than 16 pounds. But when over 80% of the fish of both species in the same area at the same time are in that size range, the gillnet is basically selective for the vast majority of the salmon in that area at that time.

Where WDFW falls off the credibility cliff is in allowing gillnet fishing where bycatch is common and knowingly predictable and includes fish populations that are not abundant enough to sustain the fishing pressure.
Thanks for sharing your wisdom on gillnets and gillnetting, much appreciated.
 

john gates

Vw Bus driving(68) God Fearing Adventure Seeker
Gill nets, smokin' dope, dealin' with gout, drinkin' IPA beer, and judgin' man-titties...
This thread is right on course. :D
Dope in 2018 refers to meth. There are many slang names for weed. Cheeba ganja green marajuana cannabis reefer and I'm sure the next wave if teenie boppers have some names I don't know. In the name of education of course.
 

Salmo_g

WFF Supporter
What’s the diff between a gill net and a drift net?

No difference. Basically two types of gillnet defined by method of fishing them. A drift gillnet drifts with the current in a river, PS, or ocean. A set net is anchored or tied off on at least one end and fishes in place. Large back eddies are ideal locations to set net in rivers.
 

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