Why people in eastern Washington don't like wind farms.....

Yard Sale

Huge Member

Dan Page

Active Member
Why is hydrogen power not pursued more? You can get it from water and there is no toxic exhaust. There must not be enough profit.
 

FinLuver

Active Member
You don't like wind farms because you don't agree with diversifying our energy portfolio with green alternatives.
Have you seen the chemicals used in the manufacture of your so called green energy?
Not to mention the disposal of such items after they wear out. [smh]
 

Jim Wallace

Smells like low tide.
So what are you suggestions for better alternatives?

If its not raining, and the round trip isn't more than 20 miles or so, and the air temp/wind chill isn't too bad, I like to ride my bicycle. The bicycle is THE most efficient form of transportation ever devised.
 

The T.O. Show

Buenos Hatches Ese
So your OK trading one for the other?
Or worse yet, creating more of the same?
That's mighty green of you.

I'm concerned about fish. That's why I'm here on this fishing forum talking about conservation issues that impact fish. So I'm willing to trade some energy sources that might have a lower impact on said fish. I'm not sure what they talk about on the shrub steppe habitat conservation forums. You might want to check that out and report back.
 

FinLuver

Active Member
I'm concerned about fish. That's why I'm here on this fishing forum talking about conservation issues that impact fish. So I'm willing to trade some energy sources that might have a lower impact on said fish. I'm not sure what they talk about on the shrub steppe habitat conservation forums. You might want to check that out and report back.
I'm sure you've got that covered...
what say you?
 

Gene S

Active Member
Seems as though most wind turbine advocates think these smokestacks with blades...usually sited in large groups on ridge tops and open areas, aren't unsightly because of their anti fossil fuel image.
 

Vladimir Steblina

Retired Forester...now fishing instead of working
That was written in 2001 by the dam operators. Worthless.

Fair question: who has more legal rights to the water, farmers or ESA listed fish who require spill?

As for the tribs, you can’t have water rights to water that doesn’t exist.

For starting a post in the conservation forum you sure don’t seem to give a shit about the fish.

Ok....since you won't read anything put out by BPA and the Northwest Power Council.

What do you read to get information on the river system???
 

HBB

Active Member
Seems as though most wind turbine advocates think these smokestacks with blades...usually sited in large groups on ridge tops and open areas, aren't unsightly because of their anti fossil fuel image.

Visual impacts are pretty much universally considered in developing environmental impact statements for wind farm projects, and typically draw significant public comment. A draft EIS will typically include renderings showing what the project would look like from certain vantage points, both at night and during the day, and will consider alternative locations to minimize visual impacts. It's also common to consider visual impacts not only during operation, but during the construction phase as well.

For example, here's a Final EIS for a project off Cape Cod: https://www.energy.gov/sites/prod/files/DOE-EIS-0470-Cape_Wind_FEIS_2012.pdf

I haven't seen anyone argue that the visual impacts are not worth considering due to the fact that the turbines produce energy without burning fossil fuels. To the contrary, sites are generally selected to minimize visual impacts.
 

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