2019 NW PHWFF 2 Fly event. Sign up here to row

Jerry Daschofsky

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#1
Yes, we're having the event. It'll be September 14, 2019 at the Ellensburg KOA. Chuck and I will purely be advising. Both of us will be rowing teams this year. Rowers need to be in camp by 7am. You are welcome to camp with us Friday and Saturday nights (tent camping). We will provide Friday dinner, all meals Saturday, and Sunday breakfast.

We are hoping to put 24 teams on the water this year. A rower must have a boat that can fish 1 in front, 1 in back. We provide the shuttle

Here's some info in case you've never been at the 2 Fly

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Ok, there have been a few misconceptions, a few things done that shouldn't have, or offers made by others that are outside what we do. Not anything major or bad, but puts the event out of our hands when it happens. So to not look like the "bad guy" here, thought I'd do a little Q and A and also clear some things up. Not going to do ALL the rules right here, but if you have questions outside of what I've written here, please post up and I'll answer best I can.

First, this is a 2 fly event. We have need for vets and volunteers in many aspects of the event. Let me give you an idea of what the terms mean.

A vet/veteran. Explains itself. But a person who has served in the armed forces. We have some volunteers who are also vets. :)

A volunteer. A person who helps out with the program.

A vet/volunteer team. Ok, here's where we have had problems in the past and even at this two fly so far. A "volunteer" is first and foremost a person who has been volunteering with the program all year. We give first preference to those who have been teaching and helping out at our VA's and WTB's for the year. If we have space available, we will pull up a volunteer who has donated their time to the 2 Fly event. But we don't recruit new "volunteers" for boat seats. We try to pay back to those helping all year in the program first.

Rower/Judge. This has been misinterpreted by a few. So need to clarify that as well. The rower IS the judge. The volunteer in back is NOT the judge. Have heard this explained a few times the past couple years by past judges, and needed to clarify. The rower does all the judging for this contest.

Locking in boats. Getting boats and rowers is the biggest hurdle we have with this event. We set preference on those who commit 100% off the getgo. If you're a maybe, you go to the bottom of the list. If we're set on boats, we always need backups. But don't be offended if you're a maybe, and we then turn you away because we fill the slots. We need those confirmed boats, and once we get all confirmed that's where we lock it up. Also, if you know how to row, but don't have a boat, you can always rent a boat from Red's, or we may be able to find someone who has a boat you can row. But we prefer if you have your own boat and can bring it. Easier all the way around.

2 fly. This contest consists of 2 flies per contestant, 2 patterns, 4 flies total for the team. For example (yes, people still don't always understand this), you want to use a chubby and a copper john. That means that BOTH contestants get a chubby and a copper john, totalling two chubbys and two copper johns for the boat (well, there is a reserve set as well, you lose your biggest fish if you lose your flies and have to grab your reserves from the judge). Yes, it is acceptable to have two of the same pattern. So if you want to simply have chubby's, you can have two each. But you need two matching sets of flies. Whatever those flies may be. I have to confer with Chuck, but do believe you can have different sizes, just have to be the same pattern.

"As needed volunteers". Here's another rub. We'd love to have an event where we have one volunteer to every veteran and then some. But we don't want to inundate camp with too many volunteers. So if we turn you away, don't be offended. Just that we try to cover everyone, and we want this to be a fun event, not a fundraiser, so limit how many volunteers we have. We cover all expenses (thanks to donations), but don't want to tax out our donations to cover an over abundance of volunteers. We have one VERY generous contributor who pays for 100% of the food bill (every other donation actually goes into the other fees associated with the 2 Fly), and I do my best to make that bill for him as LITTLE as possible. I'd love to make it a free for all, and have everyone come up and enjoy the food and the fun time at the big ceremony at the end of the day. But want to keep the budget down too, and I literally have a slot limit of how many I can cook for with equiptment I have. Well, at least the main dish that is. So please understand if you're not used as a volunteer in camp. We plan the prizes, food, etc for how many we need to run the event. If you do show up just to "attend" the ceremony do realize we probably won't be able to feed you or put you into the raffle for prizes. Again, wish we could open it to everyone, but again we don't want to blow our budget and don't want to grab generous donations to just pay for people who are just showing up for the ceremony. And PLEASE oh PLEASE don't just "show up" as a volunteer. We really need the head counts, especially when it comes to food. Unless you just plan to just work and that's it. I try to go over on how many I'm cooking for, but again if you just show up, there's a damned good chance you won't eat. And I like to know that those who signed up (especially the vets) get fed.

With volunteers, please don't just invite people to be "volunteers" at the event. Please run them all through myself or Chuck. Again, we have a slot limit of how many we need. So again, if you just invite we may not have room for them, nor have food for them (especially if you tell them how good the grub is, and they are expecting food and there isn't any for them).

Ok, that's all I wanted to clear up really. If there is anything I didn't make clear enough, feel free to let me know. Also, if there are any questions you need answered, post them up and I'll try to clarify. This is a labor of love for Chuck and I. We work really hard on this. We spend months planning this event, including a few trips up to Ellensburg doing Recon work with the shops and guides. We put alot of time and effort into this event to make it run smoothly. Stress for us runs higher and higher as the day gets closer and c loser. We can get snippy, just realize we have a full plate (since we both work full time), and still try to balance our normal PHWFF functions and still balance family and planning the 2 Fly at the same time. Again, this isn't me whining, just letting you know that if I get pissy, it isn't you. Just that we get alot of people who flake on us last minute and we both are pretty anal about planning. So until that last boat is off the water and back in camp, Chuck and I are on stress mode.

Thanks again for all who donate their time, and money to this event. We appreciate it!
 
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Jerry Daschofsky

Moderator
Staff member
#2
If you're in, please send me a private message giving me your name, phone #, if you're camping with us and what dates, and what meals you plan on eating.

Thanks!
 
#5
Wow! Didn't think this was happening this year. Said it before and happy to repeat it. Thanks to you and Chuck for the opportunity to serve those who serve! I have been truly impressed with the quality of the events from past years and looking forward to what I already know, will be a great day on the water. Honored to be allowed to participate.
Count me in Jerry. I can row/judge with my clacka 16'
I can be in for the day and can cover my own food.
 

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