JS

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As somebody who used to get what was considered the best pot ever n the 90s I must say the potency of today’s weed is out of control. I buy the weak shit. Nobody needs 30% THC.

Im guessing what Billy is seeing is the equivalent of a kid trying drinking by having a pint of rum their first time.
Its all relative, though. The alcohol trope is a good comparison. Do we NEED to allow people to buy grain alcohol? No, but restriction by potency is a slippery slope...hello Utah, lol.

The whole thing comes down to personal responsibility. If you abuse a substance and commit a crime, become a degen slob, or other nonsense, then you deserve to suffer the consequence. If you hurt another while consuming anything, you deserve to pay a consequence equivalent (as can be) to the life whom you took.

This debate is really an illustration of our societal lack of empathy and understanding. Most people have a preferred vice of some kind. If you’ve ever over consumed alcohol, then you have no ground to stand on defaming someone who smokes pot. If you are a fat ass and over consume food habitually (stoned or not), then you cant crap on an alcoholic, because you have an addiction, too.
 

JS

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Don’t even get me started on all the porn addicts not tending properly to their significant others. I’d bet the farm there are a fair few guilty parties here on the ole WFF.com!
 

Dustin Bise

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As somebody who used to get what was considered the best pot ever n the 90s I must say the potency of today’s weed is out of control. I buy the weak shit. Nobody needs 30% THC.

Im guessing what Billy is seeing is the equivalent of a kid trying drinking by having a pint of rum their first time.
you should try our hash oil if you think the flower is strong! :)
 

Dustin Bise

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Randomly effects users of chronic cannabis. Potentially up to 1 out of 3 people or 2.5 million users in this country. Would this be cause for a public health concern? Something every ER in the country would recognize in a patient? Seems to me that is worth mentioning vs people saying no side effects from the roof top. And yes being in the health care field it seems that prevalent.
its def not 1 in 3. out of the roughly 300-400 people i know in my professional network here in washington, most of which are "chronic users" i only know ONE who has suffered from CHS
 

Elliott5400

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Some of you should be thankful for the revenue cannabis is bringing this state.

Shit some folks are making large sums of money just selling cannabis affiliated merch (clothing, hats etc)
 
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b_illymac

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its def not 1 in 3. out of the roughly 300-400 people i know in my professional network here in washington, most of which are "chronic users" i only know ONE who has suffered from CHS
Even if we take your ratio which being in the industry would most likely produce some bias verses blind studies at 55 million American's using that's 183,000 that will get CVS. Again I think it's a side effect worth mentioning.
 

Dustin Bise

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Even if we take your ratio which being in the industry would most likely produce some bias verses blind studies at 55 million American's using that's 183,000 that will get CVS. Again I think it's a side effect worth mentioning.
chs, but yea. the number i saw was ~1:1000 but the data isnt reliable either way. It is one of the most severe cannabis reactions I have came across (even though its assciated with cannabis its not proven its from the plant itself yet), aside from dizzy/vomiting from overconsumption of edibles. It i def something to be aware of if your a a chronic consumer, because as you have stated, its hard for the hospital to properly diagnose.
 

Dustin Bise

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That’s a little over the top
yep, but due to the way tolerence works he was still able to function pretty normal. at the time he was using cannabis as medicine, which is why his dose was so high. many people don't realize how large of a dose is needed for some ailments. its not uncommon for cancer patients to consume the same about (4000-6000mg thc daily). If you start slow and build up the dose (just like with many pharmaceuticals) you can in fact consume these heroic doses and still function during day to day tasks
 

Jim Wallace

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Back in the Summer of 1975, I scored on some really good primo hash and decided to make some stoney brownies. I ate too many of them, and got sick, felt like shit, went to bed early, slept horribly, as if in a coma, and didn't wake up until noon the next day, feeling like my head had been used for a soccer ball. Never did that again!
Nowadays, if and when I consume any edible weed products, I am careful to consume only the "right" amount, which for me is about 4 of the legal edible brownies sold in WA retail legal weed outlets. I can feel the effects of three, but four are better. Five would be too many. Two packages of ten brownies each will give me about 5 recreational doses. I don't drive often when I'm groovin. I like to hang out in the shade and listen to music, tinker around in my shop, or don my wide-brimmed hat and go work in my yard.
I don't consume edibles much, since the high comes on slowly and lasts a while...can be difficult for planning the timing. I prefer a hit or two of THC extract from a vape pen, since there isn't hardly any filthy smoke in the vapor, and I must avoid smoke.
My last vape cartridge ran out a few days ago, but I won't make a special 40 mile round trip to go buy more. I'll just wait until I need to drive to the city for other reasons, and then pick up a couple of cartridges when driving by the legal store.
Meanwhile, I have a sixer of some good beer in the fridge...Patagonia Cerveza pilsner @ 5.4% a refreshing brew on a hot Summer afternoon.
Around my area, after getting high using a vape pen, occasionally I like to wait a bit until my lungs limber up, and then go out for a spin on my electric pedal assist fat bike and "terrorize" the beach scene. (An old grizzler scarecrow ripping by on an electric pedal assist fat bike with a stupid big grin plastered on his mug probably scares the daylights out of old ladies and foo-foo dogs. Small kids just gaze in wonder...)
I don't go for a ride if I've had more than one beer. A beer with food is a good source of carbs for fueling a ride, but the mile+ ride along the hwy shoulder to the beach approach is hazardous enough when sober. A vape pen is easy to stash, discreet, and so sometimes comes along for the ride. I ride bikes about 30 to 50 miles a week, depending on the weather. Sometimes more. Mainly, I ride fat-bikes on the beach, to avoid traffic. Probably a safer environ than the hwy if one is at all "impaired."
For the record, I'm 6' tall and weigh 165 lbs, since body volume may be a factor in figuring out one's weed dose.
I have more or less quit firing up a bowl when out in the world. Parents with small kids don't appreciate a waft of pot smoke invading their campsite or picnic area from the stoner's upwind. Vaping is more discreet.
 
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FinLuver

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"... was still able to function pretty normal."

This statement ^^^ is simply not true or factual.
For it to be so, would mean that normal people are "impaired".
Normal people don't need additional chemicals introduced into their bodies to function normally.
There are always underlying causes that necessitate the need to do so, whether physically or mentally.
That is a fact.
 

Bryce Levin

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"... was still able to function pretty normal."
Normal people don't need additional chemicals introduced into their bodies to function normally.
That is a fact.
You let me know how many people you can come up with that don't drink caffeine, take any prescription meds, aspirin, drink or partake in other substances. Not many "normal" people around, eh?

Alcohol is worse for you
Aspirin is worse for you
SSRI's (pysch meds) have worse side effects (see all mass shooters medical records)
Opioids are worse for you

Consume safely and responsibly. Think about the safety of others.
 
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FinLuver

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You let me know how many people you can come up with that don't drink caffeine, take any prescription meds, aspirin, drink or partake in other substances. Not many "normal" people around, eh?

Alcohol is worse for you
Aspirin is worse for you
SSRI's (pysc meds) have worse side effects (see all mass shooters medical records)
Opioids are worse for you

Consume safely and responsibly. Think about the safety of others.
And yet the sad part is, you and others that think like you, think that is normal. ;)
 

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