Dubbing Loop Issue

[SinglehandJay]

Overall decent at fly tying and starting to work towards new techniques. Spinning deer hair was my first goal and now I'm working at dubbing loops. One issue I keep finding is that my materials seem to get pulled out of the loop even when spun very tightly. I've been using a stick and a small bit of velcro to tease out the trapped fibers but I end up pulling out all the materials. Not really sure what I'm doing wrong... Any advice will be welcomed.

Use dubbing wax. If that doesn't work then use less material.

 

[Stonefish]

This device / tool seems to be getting a lot of play currently.
SF

 

[riverrun]

could you explain this in more detail please?

Looks like you already got some good replies explaining the technique. The bigger the hook, and especially if you are using a Waddington shank or the likes, the more important this step is. Were you doing this important step?

 

[HawaiianInWa]

After creating the loop, with the bobbin, run your thread around the loop 2x and then secure back to the hook. Creates a tighter mesh point where the two loop threads meet the hook shank. If you're leaving space between the two loop threads (not closing the loop off), you have a gap (possibly) which can create issues

Yeah that makes sense. Will try and report back.

 

[Philonius]

Get one of these

ROTODUBBING 2

stonfo.com

Based on Brian's recommendation, I went out and bought one of these yesterday. I've been using an old POS manual twister, and this is SO much better! Highly recommended.

 

[_WW_]

Are you guys trying to embarrass me?
This is what I've been using for the last thirty years. The cork was free from the wife and the spinner shaft was about $0.02.

 

[Brandon]

yeah not the best spinner but it works

I use a legit plum bob for a dubbing spinner and it works 10x as well as any dubbing spinner I've tried. It keeps the thread nice and tight as I spin it up. It's like 6 oz or something

edit:
After using the plum bob to spin the loop I transer it to a jig hook to wrap it along the shank.

 

[Old Man]

Adding dubbing was just something that I couldn't get a handle on. Even when I used Bees wax I sucked. One of reasons I quit tying flies. Now my hands shake like I'm in the wind. Besides I kind sucked at tying. I could only tie up a few good flies. Now I just buy a few at a fly shop and use them when I get out.