New OP rules

skyriver

Active Member
I will say that far more redds had anchors drug through them and people walking on them.
This is frustrating. Why do people throw their anchor out like that? They should be waiting to put down anchor when the boat is damn near beached. Like backing into a parking spot. It's not that hard. And then you stand up in the damn boat with even a decent pair of glasses to check for redds. Again, it's not that hard. Only good excuse for walking on them is dirty water, which should keep most people from even fishing.
Are people ignorant or just jerks? Or both?
 

long_rod_silvers

WFF Supporter
This is frustrating. Why do people throw their anchor out like that? They should be waiting to put down anchor when the boat is damn near beached. Like backing into a parking spot. It's not that hard. And then you stand up in the damn boat with even a decent pair of glasses to check for redds. Again, it's not that hard. Only good excuse for walking on them is dirty water, which should keep most people from even fishing.
Are people ignorant or just jerks? Or both?
Ignorance.
 

fishbadger

Active Member
I found the fishing experience to be markedly improved in the drifts that I fished. I think this was due to decreased boat angler pressure. Bank angler pressure was about the same, maybe a little higher on some days. But without the armada of side-drifters and bead/bobber lobbers picking off the easy biters, my catch rate was maybe a little better than usual, with more than one fish to hand on almost every day I went,
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wetline dave

Active Member
Steelheading is pretty much dead and a distance memory for many rivers.
It is time for some major changes and I really don't have sufficient background to make big decisions. But what is obvious is fishing has to end. Now some rivers like the Cowlitz is mostly hatchery fish and load it up and fish the heck out of it. Maybe add a couple more "planter" rivers perhaps the Green and the Sky, and another one or two on the coast.

There are probably already studies regarding which rivers have the greatest possibility of a good recovery if left alone. No wild fish to be taken and absolutely no fishing for wild fish except strict C and R, restrictive rules.

Now with all the rivers shut down create a 7 year plan and rotate the opening and closing of those rivers that would allow selected fishing during narrow windows. Rivers shut down are shut down for 7 years and evaluated and if progress then a cautious reopening and another group shut down for 7 years.

If the tribes don't want to play then hit them where is hurts. Tax the casinos, put a toll on roads leading into and out or reservations, a big toll, as those are state roads and subject to state regulations. The tribes fought the tobacco tax and lost and I bet a gambling profit tax would fly,.

I haven't actively fished for steelhead for close to 20 years now, Though I will admit to a few incidental summer fish. It is a crime that so many here never had the opportunity to fish before 1990 and especially in the 70's and 60"s and before. I was blessed and caught my first steelhead in 1959 on the Green in behind what is now a KOA in Kent. Forty rears I fished these glorious fish and watched the decline. There is no single solution and it is complex but to continue fishing a depleted stock is stupid. Unless you want to be the one who proclaims I caught the last one swimming.

Dave
 

bk paige

Wishin I was on the Sauk
Q: Where have salmon and steelhead gone?

A: Every grocery store in the Pacific Rim.

Ending sports fishing does nothing. Not a damn thing in the context of the real problem. If you and everyone stopped eating fish, we would have zero fish problems.


I won't help if people of the PNW stop eating fish, they will just sell it to new markets. Japan, China and Russia's apatite for roe is one of the biggest impacts to the global and N Pacific. Add on the rape and pillage by the Trawle fleet for Mc Sandiches, we are fucked.
 

HauntedByWaters

Active Member
I won't help if people of the PNW stop eating fish, they will just sell it to new markets. Japan, China and Russia's apatite for roe is one of the biggest impacts to the global and N Pacific. Add on the rape and pillage by the Trawle fleet for Mc Sandiches, we are fucked.

Im not trying to stir the pot, but you should reread my post. It sounds like you didn’t. Yay internet.
 

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