Thanks for this--that's a helpful comparison. I wish the Hanaks were straight-eyed, but that's still a pretty decent gap.One more photo for reference. After Hollister scored the second TD for the hawks I poured another Jubelale and tied a couple on Dai Riki 135 #18’s. They feel much smaller than the Hanaks. The scud hook shape doesn’t work with my 2.0mm beads.