Montana Bear Attack

HauntedByWaters

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I agree with most of what you wrote, but from what was said about him the guy that was mauled was pretty tuned in and familiar with that ecosystem and the hazards that lurked within.
Ya I saw that. I wasn't trying say this is a case of not being prepared. Sorry for the confusion.

I just think there is a fascinating juxtaposition in the Yellowstone region between the real wilderness and modern humans. Its true wild; dangerous, unpredictable, and uncontrollable.
 

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girlfisher

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A group of seven investigators, including FWP game wardens and bear specialists, as well as Forest Service personnel, revisited the site Friday to assess ongoing public safety risks and continue the investigation.
They yelled and made continuous noise as they walked toward the site to haze away any bears in the area. Before they reached the site, a bear began charging the group. Despite multiple attempts by all seven people to haze away the bear, it continued its charge. Due to this immediate safety risk, the bear was shot and died about 20 yards from the group. The bear was an older-age male grizzly.

Here is a response from a gal from Pine Mt. California that I thought was interesting: "On Thursday, after the attack near the snow with human blood - none of the 3 agents are holding Bear Spray In Their Hands ready to spray in the photo.
They had to have known Thursday there were no other prints (so not defending a cub) which leaves the two most obvious - defending a carcass or a surprise encounter). Ya, let’s just stroll in, 7 wildlife agents and not deploy 7 cans of Bear Spray. The picture they posted from Thursday should be labeled “Let’s Get Charged part ll” (because we know it charged the victim) and any Friday Photos “Let’s Get Charged part lll”.

OK, my question; is there a hard and fast rule (law) that dooms bears if they spill human blood?
 

Salmo_g

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OK, my question; is there a hard and fast rule (law) that dooms bears if they spill human blood?
I haven't heard of any rule or law. It seems like I usually read that the bear who mauls humans gets killed. I presume the agency decision makers think that the bear will attack humans again. Then there are cases where there is no follow up story.

Regarding CA gal who criticized the wildlife folks for not having bear spray at the ready, 7 people yelling "Hey bear!" should be enough to deter a bear without having to deploy bear spray. Knowing that the bear attacked a human the day before, I'd be more inclined to have a firearm at the ready instead of bear spray. Poor bear doesn't understand that the rangers and wildlife bios aren't interested in the carcass the bear thinks it's defending, but are required by law and policies to investigate a wildlife attack. Bears aren't interested in the "can't we all just get along" concept.
 

scottybs

Active Member
When I lived in Bozeman 20 years ago, most people told me to beware of bear and especially moose. I grew up in Bellingham so I was used to hiking and fishing and bush whacking with little worry.

In a single year in Montana, I got chased for over a mile over open terrain by a moose that would have stomped me to death, and had several close encounters with bears that thankfully didnt appear to be hungry enough. All deeply terrifying experiences. My point is, not all ecosystems are equally dangerous and that I quickly needed to change my habits in the wild out there from what I did in Western WA.

I laugh at the guys who think they need to carry a gun around the wilds of Western WA, it is so unnecessary. Ive spend countless hours in the Cascades with nothing like I experienced around Yellowstone in the few years I lived there. Yellowstone and parts of AK are not like everywhere, they are special ecosystems with giants that can look at humans like an annoying fly, a toy, or a candy bar.

I was always shocked watching the tourists walk past a warning sign showing a human impaled on a bison’s horns, then inching closer and closer towards a seemingly calm bison for that perfect pic. These animals can turn on you and come after you in the blink of an eye, they dont tell you to, “fuck off” they will litteraly fuck you off the planet and then go eat some grass.

Its really hard for the modern human to relate to wildlife and nature. Too much personification from Disney. Too much time around animals where we are bigger than them. All the big animals are gone because they are a nuisance to our civilized world and are dangerous, this has made people falsely see themselves as safe and above the wilds.
The firearm in Western Wa, is not just for critters but for upright mammals as well.
 

Rob Allen

Active Member
A thread on a bear mauling turns into politics and religion. #SoWFF

we should throw in guns, wolves, ticks, fashion and Crustacean Creek for good measure - you know we’re going there.

A group of seven investigators, including FWP game wardens and bear specialists, as well as Forest Service personnel, revisited the site Friday to assess ongoing public safety risks and continue the investigation.
They yelled and made continuous noise as they walked toward the site to haze away any bears in the area. Before they reached the site, a bear began charging the group. Despite multiple attempts by all seven people to haze away the bear, it continued its charge. Due to this immediate safety risk, the bear was shot and died about 20 yards from the group. The bear was an older-age male grizzly.

Here is a response from a gal from Pine Mt. California that I thought was interesting: "On Thursday, after the attack near the snow with human blood - none of the 3 agents are holding Bear Spray In Their Hands ready to spray in the photo.
They had to have known Thursday there were no other prints (so not defending a cub) which leaves the two most obvious - defending a carcass or a surprise encounter). Ya, let’s just stroll in, 7 wildlife agents and not deploy 7 cans of Bear Spray. The picture they posted from Thursday should be labeled “Let’s Get Charged part ll” (because we know it charged the victim) and any Friday Photos “Let’s Get Charged part lll”.

OK, my question; is there a hard and fast rule (law) that dooms bears if they spill human blood?


I know years ago they'd take "problem bears" from around Yellowstone up into the adjacent gravelly range where there is less human activity.
 

Speyrod GB

Active Member
I know years ago they'd take "problem bears" from around Yellowstone up into the adjacent gravelly range where there is less human activity.
From what I have been told, they still do. It's a pretty place, however there are some places that will make the hair on ht back of you neck stand up. Considering a Griz can go from 0 to about 30 mph in now just isn't a comforting thought when you get near dense area of shrubs.

I spent a lot of time in woods in W WA. I never really worried critters. Since I have been spending my summers in SW MT, that has changed.
 

O' Clarkii Stomias

Active Member
I haven't heard of any rule or law. It seems like I usually read that the bear who mauls humans gets killed. I presume the agency decision makers think that the bear will attack humans again. Then there are cases where there is no follow up story.
Can you imagine the litigation that would take place if the authorities didn't kill a bear after an attack on a human if said bear attacks another human?
 

Rob Allen

Active Member
Can you imagine the litigation that would take place if the authorities didn't kill a bear after an attack on a human if said bear attacks another human?


People will sue for anything nowadays. But what seems prudent to me is this.
If the bear attack is in a common human use location. Identify the bear and monitor it while informing the public. If the bear stays in the "human areas" remove it by relocating or by lethal means based upon best estimates of the bears behavior.. if the bear goes back into the back country leave him be..

This to me seems prudent common sense.
 

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