Non-sensical WDFW regulations / closures?

ianpadron

Active Member
All right, let's keep this one short and simple, and relatively on-topic...

WDFW receives a lot of flak from outdoorsmen, some of it unfounded, lots of it valid.

What are the top 2-3 senseless WDFW regulations on our local waterways? Please include why it doesn't make sense, and your recommendation on what the regs SHOULD be for that waterway.

I'll start w/ a 2-way tie for 1st place in my mind:

1a) The archaic closed status of the Pilchuck River, an a-typically fertile West side river that likely has some monster RBs and Cutts in it all the way to its headwaters. Closed decades ago during the Spring/Summer to protect juvenile steelhead....we know how that's worked out.

My recommendation: CnR all trout and selective gear year round, no salmon fishing permitted.

1b) North Fork of the Stilly being closed to protect the non-viable Chinook run, while Puget Sound anglers are keeping wild Kings in the Tulalip bubble lol. Most of you are familiar with the situation, but the fact that the Deer Creek run has recovered relatively well, yet is all but unfishable is frustrating, especially on a storied fly river like the Stilly. Maybe it's just another case of a young fella feeling like he was born 40 years too late...

My recommendation: back to the old rules, CnR wild steel all summer, hatchery retention A-OK. I have faith that fly guys know what to do in the 1 in 1,000,000 chance that a Chinook slurps a skated fly off a riffle lol.

That's it from me (for now), what other regs are keeping you up at night?
 

Dustin Bise

reformed hot-spotter
nothing. i have more pressing matters to rant about. like hotspotting and holding fish out of the water over a boat/shore for instagram likes.

WDFW protecting waterways is honestly at the bottom of the barrel for me. I think they ought to close more rivers at this point, our society has proved over and over that we are not able to follow basic rules or have basic respect for any species, including our own.
 

dustinchromers

Active Member
Some of the salmon regulations that allow people to fish with bait over native fish in search of non existent hatchery fish are pretty crazy. People literally hook and release double digits in native fish looking for what likely isn't there. It's a symptom of being out of touch with what is actually going on in Washington rivers. A blanket regulation for a region then becomes counter to the stated goal.
 

ianpadron

Active Member
nothing. i have more pressing matters to rant about. like hotspotting and holding fish out of the water over a boat/shore for instagram likes.

WDFW protecting waterways is honestly at the bottom of the barrel for me. I think they ought to close more rivers at this point, our society has proved over and over that we are not able to follow basic rules or have basic respect for any species, including our own.
Thanks for the laugh.

Certainly expected on WFF.
 

ianpadron

Active Member
Some of the salmon regulations that allow people to fish with bait over native fish in search of non existent hatchery fish are pretty crazy. People literally hook and release double digits in native fish looking for what likely isn't there. It's a symptom of being out of touch with what is actually going on in Washington rivers. A blanket regulation for a region then becomes counter to the stated goal.
I agree with that one 100%

Several rivers have that rule/issue...beyond bizarre to me as well.

I don't think bait should be allowed in any river with wild fish, and I like conventional tackle just as much as swinging flies!
 

dustinchromers

Active Member
I agree with that one 100%

Several rivers have that rule/issue...beyond bizarre to me as well.

I don't think bait should be allowed in any river with wild fish, and I like conventional tackle just as much as swinging flies!

I agree and think it's at fly anglers peril to advocate fly only. Selective gear water should be the norm though where wild fish swim. Western Washington is the most pornographic bait angling area over ever witnessed.
 

ianpadron

Active Member
Shrimp season (in 8-2). We get (3) different four hour periods (all in the AM), all three of which are on a Wednesday...what's so magic about Wednesday mornings?

Just give us a damn Saturday or Sunday morning, or two.
Oh man now that salt regs are on the table...

How much time ya got? Lol don't get me started...
 

Rob Allen

Active Member
I think all river closures are silly. Closing rivers doesn't protect a thing.
All moving water's in the state should be

1. Open year around
2. Restricted to one single point barbless hook
3. No bait except where significant numbers of hatchery fish are present and only in seasons when they are present
4. Catch and release on all unclipped native species including trout..
5. Require 100% clip rates for all hatcheries except possibly the Quinault.
 

Shack

Active Member
Not being able to fish Clearwater creek up by St. Helens above an impassable waterfall except from the trout opener to July 15. No possibility of anadromous fish or bull trout up above, just a bunch of cutthroat and brook trout. Not really sure if the cutthroat are technically native or if it was naturally fishless and someone stocked them above the falls. Brook trout came down from meta lake I assume and I’ve only seen one ever below the falls. And it’s a volcanic study area or whatever so you can’t really drive in except on one shitty forest road close to the waterfall that’s still a decent hike in. Some of the most beautiful water I’ve ever fished though and really cool scenery in general cause it was in the blast zone.
 

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