Cause of Death: Selfie

Swimmy

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Is he really at country fair level? :D

Yeah, what do you think his reaction was when his agent informed him he'd be playing an all white crowd at a county fair in Montana.
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dfl

Old, awful and ugly.
There's no cure for STUPID..!! This is not comical when it happens. On that same link there was another story of a woman at an Arizona zoo that climbed over the barrier to get a selfie with a jaguar. The jaguar reached threw the bars grabbing her arm and bit into it..!! There's no cure for STUPID..!!
Covid is.
 

dfl

Old, awful and ugly.
99% of intellectualism and intellectuals are pure pseudointellectuals at best and more dangerous to a free society than people who don’t want a vaccination. If you tell me you’re an intellectual and your view are impartial and solely based in “the science” you are merely telling me you’re a parrot of whatever you’ve read and happened to agree with. Tell me you follow “the science” and I know you’re a sycophant, a coward and completely full of bullshit.
If you think any government has either the right or the responsibility to mandate forced vaccination, you’re a coward and a bully. Freedom requires responsibility in order to function, this is an absolute truth. But to turn that around use force for things you deem better for the greater good is an exercise in intellectual dishonesty. For governments to force people do something like get a vaccine is pure tyranny. The collective good is not advanced by such action and does not in fact only entrenches people further in opposition to it.
Who do you get to tie your shoes and remind you to inhale and exhale?
 

kamishak steve

Active Member
this is where I get confused, being diabetic I was told by my doctor to get the J&J one shot i did then later I was told by my doctor to now get the Pfizer two shot vaccination because the J&J shots not effective against the new variant, I finished that series today. so after all this I can still transmit Covid 19 Delta. At what point do these vaccination really do any good other the calm the general public into thinking their safe given the various variants, seems like we should be back to wearing masks but nobody has the balls to make it mandatory.
Good question, although I do feel a bit ridiculous answering this to a stranger only known as JackMeHoff.
The benefit of the vaccine comes in the form of reduced risk of : death, hospitalization, intubation with the vaccine vs without. Even if you may become infected with delta, the outcomes for those who are unvaccinated are demonstrably worse than those without. Putting it to you this way, albeit anecdotal information as opposed to scientific. Every single hospitalized covid patient I have on my panel right now, and have for the last month, has been unvaccinated. We just don't see those people getting as sick. Even as delta becomes more and more common.
While I would have to double check for any specific studies documenting this, it would seem reasonable to assume that with decreased viral load (secondary to the vaccine) you would be shedding the virus a shorter period, and less likely to infect others, even if you did get sick with covid.
There is no question that the vaccine is the best way to prevent getting seriously ill with covid. And the vaccine antibody response is actually been shown to last longer than the antibody response to getting the actual virus.
 

_WW_

Geriatric Skagit Swinger
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Good question, although I do feel a bit ridiculous answering this to a stranger only known as JackMeHoff.
The benefit of the vaccine comes in the form of reduced risk of : death, hospitalization, intubation with the vaccine vs without. Even if you may become infected with delta, the outcomes for those who are unvaccinated are demonstrably worse than those without. Putting it to you this way, albeit anecdotal information as opposed to scientific. Every single hospitalized covid patient I have on my panel right now, and have for the last month, has been unvaccinated. We just don't see those people getting as sick. Even as delta becomes more and more common.
While I would have to double check for any specific studies documenting this, it would seem reasonable to assume that with decreased viral load (secondary to the vaccine) you would be shedding the virus a shorter period, and less likely to infect others, even if you did get sick with covid.
There is no question that the vaccine is the best way to prevent getting seriously ill with covid. And the vaccine antibody response is actually been shown to last longer than the antibody response to getting the actual virus.
...and all of this information is readily available and has been for awhile. At least for anyone that gives a shit about their health and that of their community.
 

SilverFly

Active Member
Yup, that science stuff is a bunch of baloney. The proof is hiding in your cell phone. Open it up and all you're going to find is a bunch of teeny-tiny wooden gears powered by trained ants.
 

MGTom

Living at the place of many waters
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Yup, that science stuff is a bunch of baloney. The proof is hiding in your cell phone. Open it up and all you're going to find is a bunch of teeny-tiny wooden gears powered by trained ants.
I am just amazed at cell phones. As a kid I built a crystal radio with a 9 volt battery, and listened to it quite a bit until I got a transistor radio. Now I can listen to music (talking heads yesterday), sit at the side of the river, search the web, hit the screen and be talking to WDFW enforcement while looking at a map with my gps location. And yes, there is a camera to document fish, poachers, or even to take a selfie. Amazing piece of kit.
 

dustinchromers

Active Member
...and all of this information is readily available and has been for awhile. At least for anyone that gives a shit about their health and that of their community.

Yeah it is but it sounds so much better the way Steve says it. He fields the question with little emotion and provides some facts and justifications that are tangible and logical. This is totally unlike the screeching and chanting of some individuals and agencies. The way Steve says it might even get results and change behaviours. The way some individuals and agencies go about it just might make people dig in or God forbid go looking for answers on their own. Then they end up down one of the dark alleys on the internet where some dude is shoving porn and ivermectin in their faces.
 

Bugmeister

Active Member
Yeah, what do you think his reaction was when his agent informed him he'd be playing an all white crowd at a county fair in Montana.
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The Blues Brothers is a gem of a movie. Remember when the band ended up playing at Bob’s Country Bunker? Classic.

When they asked the woman at the bar about music, she delivered with “Oh we got both kinds. We got Country AND Western.”
 

SilverFly

Active Member
I am just amazed at cell phones. As a kid I built a crystal radio with a 9 volt battery, and listened to it quite a bit until I got a transistor radio. Now I can listen to music (talking heads yesterday), sit at the side of the river, search the web, hit the screen and be talking to WDFW enforcement while looking at a map with my gps location. And yes, there is a camera to document fish, poachers, or even to take a selfie. Amazing piece of kit.

Agreed. There's a very good chance there are chips in your phone that were patterned on machines that I repair and calibrate. These machines are basically giant projectors that print incredibly small circuits. I've been working on this stuff for the last 22 years and it still blows me away that it works. Even with "old" technology like this we're printing transistors so small it would take nearly a thousand to span the diameter of a human hair. And don't get me started on the cutting edge stuff (Google EUV Lithography if you really want you mind blown).

Getting back to the original off-topic point, it has taken an incredible series of scientific breakthroughs to put that amazing piece of kit in everyone's hands. And yet, there are those who continue to think science is little more than smoke and mirrors designed to hide an agenda. Sure, data is cherry picked, results improperly interpreted to forward means and line pockets - but the lies are never sustainable.

Fortunately, the great thing about science is that ultimately, it's empirical evidence alone that rules in the end. Even crazy non-sensical shit like quantum mechanics. The effects of which must be accounted for when projecting images with sub-micron details. So yeah, I believe science when I put in process corrections measured in single-digit nanometers and I can post this while having my morning coffee.

I also sometimes imagine what it would be like to time travel back to "mid-evil" times and show people technology from the future. Somehow that flight of fancy always ends with the time traveler being burned at the stake. Amazing how far we've advanced in some respects, and so little in others.
 
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_WW_

Geriatric Skagit Swinger
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Yeah it is but it sounds so much better the way Steve says it. He fields the question with little emotion and provides some facts and justifications that are tangible and logical. This is totally unlike the screeching and chanting of some individuals and agencies.
What good is a day without a little hysteria in your life?

The way Steve says it might even get results and change behaviours.
The way Steve says it has been said many times before by many people. Chromers! Ever the optomist!

Would love to chat but it's time for my deworming...
 

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