I have a place on a lake near Shelton. 22 ft deep max. Warm as bath water and 30" lower at the end of August. It gets 3000 9-12" stockers.
2800 probably ....guessing.
2800 probably ....guessing.
So, are you saying that trout rods would be right up there with spey rods?If they switched most of the lakes over to warm water fish to accommodate the global climate change . The fly fishers would all have to buy special bass & perch flyrods as the trout rods would be useless . this would be a boost to the economy.
For stillwater basically warmer summers=less windows for good trout fishing water temps.
The WDFW: Lets focus our seasons on the warm water months to keep things simple.
I mean this doesn't make any sense and you can't really argue it does. The late April opener is an outdated tradition that is barely hanging on and that's only because our state wastes enough tax dollars to stock a ton of catchables and brag it's gunna be a good one this year...
As mentioned in the video, the subject lake naturally has low productivity, as in primary production. Bugs and crayfish are secondary production that require primary production for forage, so your proposal would not work. It could be made to work by fertilizing the lake - polluting it selectively, if you will - to boost primary productivity. That would lead to increased natural production of secondary forage that fish could eat. AK and BC do this with some infertile lakes to make them good producers of sockeye smolt.This is probably a crazy silly idea but instead of raising so many trout. Maybe some effort should be made to planting bugs and crayfish and other tastes things that would encourage larger trout growth?
I guess that young angler was me. Their circus day openers are what started my passion to where it is today. And no, I didn’t end up becoming a stringer guy lined up at a hatchery hole snagging salmon and talking numbers…This culture and example that is encouraged by the department with their circus day openers ect gets carried forth from young anglers into their future "sporting" life
Good points.I have fished the lake in the video many times and my catch has ranged from lots of smaller catchables (rainbows and tigers) to quality-sized rainbows and browns in the past. While I enjoyed both scenarios I certainly have my preference. That said, I’m guessing there are people/families who may prefer more action even if the fish were smaller. You are never going to make everyone happy all the time.
We have all lamented that river fishing is spiraling downhill, with increasing measures to restrict fishing. Therefore, WDFW should do everything in its power to direct attention and opportunity to lake fishing, particularly when many lakes provide opportunity all on its own, without any additional stocking programs. Traditional “warmwater” fishes can reproduce naturally in many lakes; this fact should be considered when managing lakes.
Here would be my solution for simplifying lake fishing regulations. First I would define seasons, harvest, and gear types.
I would start over by classifying all lakes into similar categories. This would include lowland lakes, high lakes, and reservoirs.
- Standard Harvest-year round season, standard gear use and harvest regulations. 5 fish trout limits, standardize limits for all others (bass, walleye, perch, sunfish, catfish, etc.). When using bait, the first 5 are considered harvested and you stop fishing for trout.
- Selective Gear-using the current selective gear rule definitions (no bait, barbless hooks, etc.). Year round season C&R except a special harvest season for April, May, September and October. 2 trout limit, use of bait allowed during harvest season. When using bait, the first two are considered harvested and you stop fishing.
- Fly fishing only-same as current definition and largely use the same lakes that have these current regulations. Catch and release or possible 1-fish limit and you stop fishing.
Something like this could go a long way in regulation simplification and standardization. Of course, poaching will always occur no matter what management plan or category you fill your lakes in. And at times you can participate in WDFW's public process all you want and still not get what you want or even expect the best use of the resource. Perhaps most importantly you need the local area bios keeping tabs on the lakes as best they can and adaptively manage as things change. This is the biggest reason the angler in the video was disappointed in the catch size and quality and the purpose for bringing it to the attention, hopefully by those who have the power and authority to make a change.
- Anadromous/ESA-Manage for conservation, limited angling impact, establish blanket regulations that errs on conservation. Apply statewide and set seasons that meet management objectives.
- Special Needs Regulation Lakes-private access, waterfowl management, etc. These are the special-case lakes that would be listed in the regulations that have separate seasons based on management needs. These should be relatively few in numbers.
- Mixed Bag/Multi Species Lakes-Specially managed for warmwater species and trout. Standard Harvest management. Open year round for harvest and use of bait. Catchables/jumbos management plan. All these lakes would be removed from the general regulations and fall under statewide management. This would include a vast majority of the lakes found in Washington.
- Trout Only Management Lakes-Selective gear rules open year round C&R except special harvest season using bait for part of the season. Fry plant management plan. This would include most of the traditional opening day lakes on the eastside of the state.
- Reservoirs/Kokanee Lakes-Standard harvest, chumming permitted. Special kokanee limits depending on production levels. Fry plant (kokanee) management plan.
- Kids/Family Lakes-Standard harvest rules with year round season. Catchable/jumbo management plan. Strategically plan for these types of lakes near urban areas but also spread out throughout the state.
- Special Trout Management-fly fishing only year round season with C&R. Fry plant/Triploid management plan. These lakes are relatively few in number.
There is at least one out there. Hopefully more to come in the future.Good points.
One thing that I sometimes wonder is why more places don't have drop boxes for anglers to provide data. Could be really simple: how long did you fish, how many did you catch, any added comments? Could develop CPU from that and maybe see some trends, like if majority comment on diseases or skinny fish, etc.
Feedback from the public could go a long way to making managers decisions more informed.