Long and Short of it.

Gentleman I have a question for what length rod do you prefer.

I have been watching usage trends and Sales unless my facts are wrong we are buying more short rods.

Two years ago the average length of a Speyrod sold was 14.25 ft.

Now it has shrunk down the 13.1 ft.

What your rod length

For casting I like a 15fter.
Loop Yellow 9/10, Meiser MKS 15 10/11, CND Solstice 15’2, SAGE TCR 15 ‘ and a C.F. Berkheimer 1409 stretched to 15 ft.
These keep me out to trouble.

For Fishing I to have turned to shorter rods.

The 13ft Mks 9/10 and Berkheimer 13ft 9/10 would be top rods for Larger Salmon.
For Steelhead I have been using “ CND Solstice 13f 4, CND Skagit 13’9” and long water casts C.F. Berkheimer 14’1 8 wt, GLX Loomis, 14 8/9 Greased Liner and CND 14’3 7/8

So what is your poison???????????
Long or short.
Since I primarily salt water fish using the under hand/over head cast, I prefer the shorter 2 handers. Cast and strip, rather than swing, with shooting heads is the method. Of course I have never properly studied spey casting technique. I find that 10.5' to 12' work best for me.


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Darned interesting observation .. one with which I agree. My longest is a 18' B & W .. and it hasn't had a line on it in close to three years. The only time I even use my 15' (a Sage 9 and 10 or Loomis 10) is for tossing full sinking spey lines.

For casting comfort (and in the expectation of 'smaller fish') 12.5' to 13' 9" is the day to day norm. I'll usually have at least three rods rigged at any given time. One with a full floater, the other two with a heavy and a light sink tip. As i move through a section of water I (usually) will fish the floater first (long leader/weighted flys), then the light tip, then go back through a third time with the heavy tip.

The dry line will be on a 'shorter rod,' the tips on the longer rods.


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I am all over the place with 2 handed rods.
I have a Sage 6126, Burkiemer 13' 10, St. Croix 13' 7/8, Burkiemer 13'9" 8, Loomis 14' 9, and a cabelas 15' 10.
I have been using my shorter rods lately with Skagit Speys and liking the results. Although my "go to" rod is my 13'9" Burkhiemer. Its a sweet stick. I have a multi tip Mid Spey and It can cast everything very well.
I have short heads and shorter rods and longer heads on the longer rods.


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You already know that I much prefer to fish with rods 15' and over. The only time I use a rod shorter than 15' anymore is when fishing rather small water such as the Samish or Pilchuck Rivers; otherwise, I will have a longer rod in my hands.


Ditto your preferences SB, with the CND Salar 15'6" and Burkie 9149 added for longer belly/dry line work.

Top two winter/spring/summer rods are the Solstice 13'4" and Skagit
13'8" with appropriately short Skagit-style heads.

You know I am mostly a short rod guy. The longest rod I own is a 9143 Burkie, then an 8139 Burkie. Like Kerry S. I think one of the Sage 12' + rods are the ticket for heads and big flies. I have an old 9126-3, handles heavey heads, big flies, and big fish.
An old Talon 12' 6" and a 11' 6" Forecast are good for smaller rivers, as I don't try to "visit my neighbors side of the river" on most runs.
I am building up a 13' IM8 proto blank I got from Bob Meizer. Seems fast but only fishing will tell. Almost forgot, like most everyone else, I own a Sage9140and 7136.


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Until this weekend I hadn't touched my old Sage 9140 in 7 or 8 years. It's a thunderstick that casts nicely but is overkill for over 90% of the fish that I actually hook. I'm much more partial to 12 and 13' rods in the 7 and 8 wt. line range. They cast well - better than my skill level to say the least - and are a better match to fish in the 5 - 15 pound range.


Salmo g.

Bob Triggs

Stop Killing Wild Steelhead!
I love my old Sage 14 footer, nine weight, the slower action. I have used it for Salmon, Striped Bass, Bluefish, Steelhead and even some Pike.

And I also love the CND Skagit Specialist 13'-9", for giving me a little more power where the old Sage rod taper seems to leave off.

I have a 15 foot ten weight Hardy Elite that I have not matched up to a proper line yet, but I suspect it will be a bit slower and heavier than anything else I have.

I tried the twelve foot Sage rods, or roughly twelve foot, in six weight, and I loved that one too.

Of all of them I have to say that the CND Skagit Specialist is a sweet casting rod.

But compared to some of you guys, I'm still just getting into it.


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last two i added to arsenal are 12'3" sage (8123) and an 11'6" burkie. they are less tiring to me and don't work my back into knots like my longer rods. perhaps i loose a bit of distance, but i am not a spey caster, i am a spey fisherman :D

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