Thoughts on killing the record steelhead, fallout and ruminations:

#61
Dustin Bise: Having a maximum size limit for keepable steelhead is short sighted because all wild steelhead are valuable and add to the gene pool even if they are small. I can understand size slots for other species that are targeted before reproductive age, but the vast majority (except half-pounders) are sexually mature when they return.

Andy, nice poem. I know everyone is hating on people for posting and keeping this topic alive. People are saying go change the laws as if it were that easy. I am active in conservation organizations and atrocities like this fuel the fire to stay involved and active.
 
#62
Dustin Bise: Having a maximum size limit for keepable steelhead is short sighted because all wild steelhead are valuable and add to the gene pool even if they are small. I can understand size slots for other species that are targeted before reproductive age, but the vast majority (except half-pounders) are sexually mature when they return.

Andy, nice poem. I know everyone is hating on people for posting and keeping this topic alive. People are saying go change the laws as if it were that easy. I am active in conservation organizations and atrocities like this fuel the fire to stay involved and active.
oh i thought this whole hype was based on the fact that he kept such a large fish with "special great genes"...... :beathead: Just thought i would offer up an idea

if this is more about ALL wild steelhead then yea, i agree that a maximum size wouldnt be very effective.
 

Jergens

AKA Joe Willauer
#64
Huh, All Hatchery fish. What's your point Jergens?
Trying to understand your thinking, because i disagree with your opinion about taking a steelhead, because it's legal. Like i originally posted, not intended to be a slam, just curious as to what experience you have had with the subject. and your right, the law needs to be changed, since self policing is not effective.
 
#65
ZEN, well done! Bob ..... who no longer is a member would be proud....he was constantly 'schooling' you on your spelling and sentence construction, I have no doubt that he has read this and was probably smiling like a proud father! The fish was legally harvested and is dead, end of story. But the awareness that these countless posts have raised may help to bring some positive action[maybe]. The angler, who surely has heard or read much of the fallout can do one RIGHT thing now: remove his name and catch for consideration for any records....by doing so, he can hold his head a little higher when he says he kept the fish for sport[but I'm sure he won't]. I wish it had been released, but I think many of us whould have been really tempted to tag it.
 

Jefffly

The more we know, the less we can learn!
#66
The nets in the river catch fish like this every year some are even sold for molds by the tribe stop the netting and commercial fisheries and the runs would come back. get off this guys back for legally keeping a fish. if you feel that strongly about it I agree with numerous others, help in the fight to have the laws changed, I would start with netting (commercial and Tribal) then worry about the Sport guys.
and by the way the weekend of feb 20th, 29 wild steelhead were kept and killed out of the Hoh your poem should have been directed at everyone of the people who killed fish not Just PETER!!
 

Leroy Laviolet

Aint no nookie like chinookie
#68
Everyones situation is different-
Because it's legal , doesn't make it right-
The moral issues and leagalities of gill nets and natives are for another thread and way off topic of what Zen said in his original post-
Any sport fisher , Especially a Spey/fly guy, fishing for sport fishing reasons , who kills a wild steelhead , is a thug, plain and simple, legal or not. It's the sport fishers responsablity to know the difference between right and wrong, and not use the excuse of some bullshit law that makes it ok-
Bleeder... Bullshit! Don't insult our intelegence please-
Looks like a Gloomis rod... Think the pic will make the catalog?:eek:
This fish should have died of natural causes...
 

KerryS

Ignored Member
#69
I wonder why the steelhead and other fish species in the rivers with no commercial, native or citizen, netting have not rebounded to record numbers?
 

Flyborg

Active Member
#71
all you internet tough guys talking about violence being okay or thinking things would have different if you had been there... here's an idea. head down to cottonwood, barlow's, lyendeckers, richwine bar, etc and start your campaign of violence against people who keep wild steelhead.

http://www.peninsuladailynews.com/article/20090301/NEWS/303019990

"Last week alone (Feb. 16-22), state officials counted 47 native steelhead caught and kept by recreational anglers on the Calawah, Quillayute/Bogachiel, Sol Duc and Hoh rivers."

you're having a fit over one fish, while the genes of 47 other wild fish have bit the dust. changing the rule is the key, and the behavior and words on these internet bulletin boards by a bunch of people talking about harming an old man has done more harm in actually getting the regs changed.

it's not about approving of the behavior of pete harrison or the 40-50 others that week that harvested wild steelhead on the OP, but i certainly do not believe that talking #$% on the internet is helping, unless you're trying to help further the image that fly anglers are elitist, smug, and stupid.

go ahead, go down to the boat ramps and make good on all your tough talk with the gear guys.... oh, yeah it's easier to threaten an solitary old fly fisherman.

zen and flyborg =

Check your reading comprehension, nubtard. I didn't threaten violence, I merely pointed out that the people doing so are rightfully upset. And yes, those that fish with me regularly have seen me shit talk on the river, especially when I see guys pulling crap that's disrespectful to the resource. If you want to call me an "e-thug", so be it, but wtf are you doing for steelhead out in Colorado, aside from jumping in threads and trying to shout people down for making noise about an important issue.
 

TallFlyGuy

Adipossessed!
#72
If you go to IRAQ, you can beat the hell out of your wife, Cuz it's legal. I think some of those guys on the OP should go live in IRAQ, so they can take advantage of that law as well.
 
#73
Can anyone tell me what rivers it is legal for non native commercial fishermen to take steelhead? All the sports and commercial regs are posted online so it's easy to point it out.
 

patrick barta

Love'em - N - Leave'em
#74
Cheese-n-Rice people.... give it a break! If the man said it was bleeding and would have died then take him at his word, you weren't there. I think I would have done the same.

Don't you people have anything better to do with your time??
 
#75
How about fishing on Native waters, there are many rivers open to fishing that only contain wild steelhead. Most regs require barbless hook and obviously are C&R. Is it unethical to fish such waters.
 

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