Wirehaired Griffon

I've been out of the hunting scene for lots of years but it calls again. Does anyone use the Griffon or have any experience with the breed? I am in my mid 60's, a foot hunter, probably mostly grouse, duck. My ideal dog would have an off switch as most of the time it probably will be keeping my feet warm or riding around with me.


Idiot Savant
Hello Mike, Don't know much about WPG, but if you log onto the Upland Journal forum there are lots of owners that can give you great feedback.

Take care, Roper

Chukar Spey

I'll take Chukar & Steelhead all day, every day!
Depending on the type of upland hunting you'll be doing...

Of the Brittanys that I have hunted over (3 or 4) all were very well mannered and were GREAT in house dogs. The other is a Vizla, another good family/bird mix. As the others have said, ole reliable in the Labs.

I second Upland Journal's forum. GREAT bunch of guys.
thanks for the tips, guys. I too like the labs and the Britts but ..... I remember the extra jolt I used to get when the dog would point the bird giving me more time to mull over the more creative ways I could let the dog down upon the flush when I was supposed to do my part. There aren't any bad bird dogs as I remember but my yen is for a calm pointing dog ..... perhaps that is an oxymoron?
Mike Mc
I have hunted with pointers and setters all my life. I have a buddy that is into the WHG he loves them, very calm good hunters great family dogs. He shows his AKC as well with great success. I think for a guy that wants a pal and a hunter you cant go wrong with a WHG. I have been chasing English Pointers and Setters all my life and think it may be time to get one myself.

Good luck and good hunting.:thumb:
I'm a Brittany guy and will probably remain so, but I have been intrigued with the Griffon's retreiving ability. Most pointing dogs are single coated (except for Pointing Labs) and while some are proported to be water dogs, they can't handle cold weather. It's said that Griffons can handle cold water. If true, that's a perfect combination. A pointer and retreiver in the same package. However, I don't recall encountering any in my years of duck hunting.

That said, the Griffons I've seen are great looking, friendly, affecionate dogs. There's nothing better than having both a hunting companion and household pet. I think you are on the right track.


Because I can
ok... a pointing lab. :)


+1 on the pointing lab.... Sometimes called a pausing lab by the pointer guys. Probably the best bet for your situation.

You won't be able to turn a real upland dog off when you want that nice lap dog if you don't run the crud out of it on a regular basis.

I've owned two griffons and hunted over several others. I have also been a member of the Wirehaired Pointing Griffon Club of America for many years, judging in their dog tests which are required to evaluate all puppies from their breeding program. The clubs breeding program is not for everyone but they consistently produce some very nice all around dogs. I have hunted pheasants, grouse, quail, chukar, ptarmigan, ducks and geese with my dogs and both of mine have more than met my expectation in the field and as a household member. I think they're great dogs.


Sorry my one and only post is about dogs and not FF.
Appreciate all the feedback ..... those pointing labs are pretty neat aren't they? ... have not seen many of them but all were chocolates that I remember ... great combination dogs.

I am still on a quest for a versatile hunting dog though. I have blundered into maybe an opportunity that you might have opinions about.

A friend hunts with ES. We were talking dogs while waiting for salmon to hit (they didn't) and when I mentioned Griffons he told me his son in law had two ( 1 & 5 y/o) and were considering getting a new home for the one year old. That would leave them with a older dog, two little kids and that was enough fun apparently.

I talked to the fellow and will see the dog this week. He is 1, from a kennel that both hunts and shows, is well mannered, house trained but is still in the puppy stage. Neither of their dogs have ever been hunting or encouraged to do so but were bought for the purpose of hunting. ... we all can remember those days!

The dog is not out of the WPGCA but I dont know the kennel yet or if it is NAVHDA breeding/testing .....

My question, given the lack of any early introduction to birds, water, etc, is it too big a risk to take a 1 year old dog and hope the genes will kick in?

This is an whole male dog. I have no kids about anymore and a couple of fixed herding Aussies- females.

I've had the opportunity to see several griffons at one year of age which had been under exposed. Their lack of exposure was either due to injury or illness with the dog or the owner. If the dog has the genetics and a stable temperment they can be brought along. You can certainly make up for the lack of bird exposure but I would want to evaluate his exposure and therefore comfort to other things such as other dogs, people, cover and water. If you can, take the dog out into a field (with the owner) and watch the dog work some cover. Ask the owner not to say anything to the dog. You can tell a lot just by watching a dog as long as it is free from any verbal influences from the owner. Just start walking. I wouldn't expect much but you want to evaluate how independent the dog is and how comfortable he is in the field. Does he just walk at the owner's side or does his nose take him off searching, even if only a short distance off. Is he timid or fearful? Does he run off wild? If the dog moves out at all on its own, change direction without calling the dog. Does he ignore the owner completely, run to his side or swing around in front of him and continue searching? Could be the natural ability and potential are there. It really depends on how much you want to put into it from that point on.

Good luck.

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