Talking marine worms....

#17
Hooker, you are out of line sir... Chester is right in that this forum is a place for all of us to share information. Sure, there should be general guidelines as to what information should and shouldn't be posted. However, patterns and techniques are probably the two most important reasons that this forum was even created in the first place...and probably the reason why you joined yourself. I don't get the impression Chester cares more about himself then the fishery. If you have any sense and insight as to what kind of information Chester shares through his posts and his blog, you would recognize that as a fact. Go back to your anger driven, secret life of not sharing anything to protect your own selfish motives and fishing techniques. Maybe you should begin questioning why you are even here before you tell people to STFU...
 

Chester Allen

Fishing addict and scribbler
#19
Hooker -- This is getting exhausting. We have gone from you saying that I give up beaches and tell every secret left in Puget Sound. Now, you've whittled that down to one post that I wrote about an experience on an unnamed beach last Tuesday.

So, now we're down to one beach that I fished last Tuesday -- out of more than 200 posts I've made on this board. Still, I went back to the thread and NO ONE named the beach I fished on Tuesday.


And I suspect that some of the people who posted on that thread have a completely different beach in mind. What's more, the fishing was BAD on that beach on that day.



In any case, how is that particular post any different from hundreds of posts on this board?

I don't come onto this board to argue. I come here to learn stuff, share information and have fun. I've been a fly angler for 40 of my 48 years, and I love this sport and the fish and the places. I write outdoors for a living for two newspapers, and I don't name spots in those articles.

What makes me sad about all this is that we'd probably say hello and have a nice talk if we met by chance on a beach. We probably share a lot of common interests -- after all, we are both here talking about fishing Puget Sound.

My name is on my posts and my blog and my outdoor writing. If you do see me on a beach, please say hello. I rarely see other anglers on the beaches that I fish.
 
#20
Hooker, you are out of line sir... Chester is right in that this forum is a place for all of us to share information. Sure, there should be general guidelines as to what information should and shouldn't be posted. However, patterns and techniques are probably the two most important reasons that this forum was even created in the first place...and probably the reason why you joined yourself. I don't get the impression Chester cares more about himself then the fishery. If you have any sense and insight as to what kind of information Chester shares through his posts and his blog, you would recognize that as a fact. Go back to your anger driven, secret life of not sharing anything to protect your own selfish motives and fishing techniques. Maybe you should begin questioning why you are even here before you tell people to STFU...
you are clueless. You probably dont have anything worth sharing like most of the guys on here. You are here to learn and you want everything to be told to you. I can understand that, because most people are lazy and want to have everything fed to them and not have to put in any work.
The reason i joined is to see attached pictures and talk fishing. I didnt join to tell every idiot out there how to fish. Thats something people should learn on their own. Sure, get the basics, have a mentor, but actually work for something too. Learn how to fish a beach on your own, learn what fly works when, learn how to be successful. Its part of the game and should be part of the learning curve. Unfortunately we have people here that want to be revered for telling everyone how to do it. I dont share what i know with everyone beacuse I RESPECT the fishery and most of those that do target coastal cuthroats on a regular basis.
You and I read the same works with completely different takes on the material.
 
#23
You know, the discourse on this site is supposed to be friendly. I can imagine why some are offended when it comes to secret spots, flies, dates, etc. but what I can't imagine is that someone would blow up if another chooses to give up information for the benefit of the readers. Take for instance, a flie swap. I don't mind sending a fly, my own creation, to another flyfisher so he can enjoy what we all enjoy. There are enough beaches, flies, and fish for all of us if we are good stewards of them. It seems to me that we should be preaching steardship and conservation, proper playing and handling of the fish we catch, and proper, safe return of the resources we have. All it takes to be a successful flyfisherman is observation and practice. I can't tell you the number of people who fish my favorite beach and walk away emptyhanded while I have enjoyed success because I watched and learned the beach and developed fly patterns that attract the fish. If you want to know the name of the beach all you have to do is read my posts. If you want to know the flies that work, ask. It doesn't mean you'll be successful until you put in the time on the beach to learn it. I'm also sure there are young, impressionable people who read this site and I would hope we could all use a little restraint with our language when we write.
 
#25
Thats something people should learn on their own. Sure, get the basics, have a mentor, but actually work for something too. Learn how to fish a beach on your own, learn what fly works when, learn how to be successful.

First of all, don't disrespect me. You don't know me and have no right to call anyone clueless or to tell people to STFU. Grow up, learn to respect yourself and use that integrity for some good instead of trying to shit on everyone else around you.

Second, you make a lot of sense in what you are saying about getting out there and seeing what works for yourself. This is the only way in reality to catch any fish at all. Just because something is working on one beach any given day, doesn't mean it's always going to be that way. Hence the reason to experiment and find out what is going to work for that given situation. This is also why it is beneficial to share potential patterns and situations. So that when we are out there on our own, we can experiment with what maybe working somewhere else.

If you want to protect your secrets and patterns, you have the right to. I don't think discussing potential patterns is going to hurt the fishery and give away everything you've worked so hard to find out for yourself.
 
#27
Well, as long as the cat's out of the bag, I'll take some heat with
Chester.

SRCs and coho also eat krill, herring and bait fish, and I tie patterns to match.

There goes the neighborhood!

PS Just don't tell them about the sessile clam necks.
 

Chester Allen

Fishing addict and scribbler
#28
Henderson and Ringlee -- I only mentioned the PM -- and didn't name any names -- because I thought the guy made an interesting point. I had no intention of disrespecting anyone, and I think my history on this board and in other venues backs that up.

I just wanted to see what other people thought -- and that has certainly happened.

I'm not flaunting anything. The guy brought up a point that is pretty central to this whole board, which is what do you share and what do you not share?
 
#30
Chester, this isn't on you. You share what you want. If people get idigestion from it, they should take an antacid. My first post got me in more trouble on the board than I would care to talk about. I'm glad it's passed into history.
 

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