40+ or outbound?

Ed Call

Well-Known Member
#17
I have an older outbound that does tangle more. The newer outbounds that I have, including one outbound short, cast great with less tangles. When comparing the two like the OP asked, 40+ or Outbound I still prefer the 40+. I own as many outbounds as 40+ lines. I just feel like the running line for the Airflo 40+ is a bit easier to work with, tangles a bit less, comes untangled a little bit easier and both shoot very well. I think I mentioned before that the material used to make the Airflo lines reparis and welds much easier too. Two great lines, a few slight edges make me favor the Airflo 40+ with ridge running lines.
 

SciGuy

Active Member
#18
I too have both. I feel I can launch the OB (old version, intermediate) a little better but have lost a couple of really nice coho due to tangles...hot fish that went on screaming runs before I could dump line. I spend more time with the 40+ because it is a floater and more appropriate than an intermediate for the waters I fish. 40+ isn't without problems though. The coating on the running line wore away after only one year adjacent to the weld with the head (although, granted, I fish more than most). That area does get a lot of wear and tear but I'd expect it to last longer.

BTW, I matched the OB wt with my rod and go one line up with the 40+.
 
#20
I have an older intermediate Outbound in 6 weight and don't care for it. The running line tangles too much even with stretching and it cuts fingers like a knife.

I'm not surprised Rio changed the formula as the original should have never made it out of R & D in my opinion. Still, I know it has many fans.
 

Richard E

Active Member
#21
I have an older intermediate Outbound in 6 weight and don't care for it. The running line tangles too much even with stretching and it cuts fingers like a knife.
In intermediate integrated head lines, I prefere the SA line just for those reasons mentioned. The SA running line tangles, too, like any other line, but the running line is very easy to handle. It has a relatively larger diameter than the OB and 40+ lines, so you might lose a little distance but it's easier to grab.
 

Jim Wallace

Smells like low tide.
#22
Thanks Peter! This is good info! I am going to have to get at least one more line to replace my older Outbound. I think your post just pushed me over the edge toward getting the 40+.

My 40+ is used 99% of the time on salt water beaches and flats and tend to be a more successful line than the Streamer Express. The SA Streamer Express has a unique texture to it. The line is soo slick its rediculous! The running line is nothing like the 40+, has more like a "plastic-type" feel to it and is 100X slicker.

Too bad SA doesn't make a "floater line" with the same Streamer Express qualities.

Zero issues with the SA Streamer Express, I just don't use it. To be honest I haven't caught anything on it, the 40+ floater is my go to line, caught MANY SRC and Silvers using the 40+, no sink tip needed.
My buddy was using his Streamer Express and slayed Many upon many Pinks in the salt and especially rivers where flies need to be "slow and low".
 
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golfman65

Guest
#23
Some help please....I have a 40+ that is Ok, not great compared to the newer version of outbound...Which I like quite a bit...that said...I don't think my outbound is a cold salt water one though...I remember looking for said line and never finding one...Any help would be appreciated on what exact line your talking about here?

My best overhead floating line is a scandi Meiser one....I know he made it for my switch rod for trout..but the thicker running line he welded makes that line a monster two hand overhead casting...bad ass...
 

SciGuy

Active Member
#25
...I don't think my outbound is a cold salt water one though...I remember looking for said line and never finding one...
I don't think RIO makes the Outbound in a cold water version. 40+ does come in a cold water version but intermediates and sinkers only...ya gotta stick with the standard 40+ if you want a floater.
 
#26
I have the OB original 6wt (Intermediate) on which Anil shortned the head about 5 feet and put a different running line on for me this year but haven't tried it yet. It was waaaay to long & tangly for me in its original form....am hoping it will be much better now but its been too cold to try lately.

Also have the SA Streamer Express Intermediate that I got last year after so much frustration with the OB and found I could cast it much better...even tho my casting skills have improved only slightly in the last 3 years - I still suck at both casting AND fishing/catching.

Got a new line for my 8wt from a board member last week but haven't found a reel to put it on yet. It is a Floating Streamer with a DC 15' foot sink tip (type II or III me thinks-can't remember for sure).

Speaking of reels, has anyone here tried or know much about the new Wright & McGill fly reels (or rods)?? They shore look purrty....and we all know that "purrty" counts a lot...especially to the fishies, right?!! Seems like good prices on both rods & reels - or is that, "poles & winder thingies?"

All opinions appreciated - even the ones I may not agree with!

Oops, sorry....I guess this thread was about the 40+ or OB......

Jc
 
#27
Some help please....I have a 40+ that is Ok, not great compared to the newer version of outbound...Which I like quite a bit...that said...I don't think my outbound is a cold salt water one though...I remember looking for said line and never finding one...Any help would be appreciated on what exact line your talking about here?

My best overhead floating line is a scandi Meiser one....I know he made it for my switch rod for trout..but the thicker running line he welded makes that line a monster two hand overhead casting...bad ass...
The standard, and Short models are the cold water lines. They also make a Tropical version that is their warm water line. Hope that helps.

briansII
 

d. rose

Live to fish, fish to live.
#28
Someone mentioned wanting an SA Streamer Express in a floater. It will be available for next year. I have been fishing a sample for a couple of months, and I have to say, it is awesome! I'm no longer repping for SA so you can't call me bias. Well, maybe a little. The line is less aggressive than the 40+ and I find it is much easier to carry line for quick change of directions, or pick up and shoot at will. PS anglers should definitely check it out.

Dylan
 

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