I think we a all are trying to be complete fisherman. Even if we have fished our whole life. I learn something everytime I go out and think I have nailed it then I get my butt kicked and realized there is more to learn.
Sounds like more earth tones including brown/tan ect with copper ribbing need to be added to my box. Thanks to everyone who replied, you can never have enough sizes or colors! I haven't been tying many without beads, that is a good idea. Back to the bench.:thumb:
Size does matter. For chiro's, thin is definitely the in thing. Sometimes straight hook ties out produce curved hook ties. Go figure on that one. My box contains over 500 but I found myself using only four or five patterns last year. Black w/ white bead, brown w/ black bead, root beer w/ copper bead, red w/ white bead, and another color combo I won't reveal. I find 14's and 16's to be the most effective, but keep a good supply of 18's and 20's in certain patterns. Be sure to include some long shank bloodworms. Tie with just fine red wire wrapped on the hook or red holographic flash w/ mono-rib, all covered with Sally Hansen's Hard as Nails. Fish these early in the season as your bottom fly tied on with the loop knot. For your 200R's, try offseting the point to get a better hook-up. I all but quit tying on these even though they make a great looking chiro. Hook-up ratio to that of other hooks can be poor.
Curved or straight is ineresting thought. I have always thought of curve looking better. I guess I think it imitates movement from the Chirony. I might have to test that out. Learing something new every day.
My box contains about halfnhalf, curved and straight. Most of the time I'm chirono fishing I can't tell if the fish prefer one or the other. Some days I do notice a better hooking ratio on the curved hook esp. the smaller bugs. Sometimes it depends on how aggressive the fish are feeding. When they're feeding more aggressively I do better with a straight hook. When they're feeding casually with soft takes the curved hooks works better. Just a few observations with too many variants to be science, but with enough mystery to keep me going back for more!
Tan with black ribbing pheasant back, peacock herl with white ostridge herl gills.
Tan with gold ribbing pheasant back, peacock herl with white ostridge herl gills.
Tan with Olive ribbing pheasant back, peacock herl with white ostridge herl gills.
Brown with black ribbing pheasant back, peacock herl with white ostridge herl gills.
Brown with gold ribbing pheasant back, peacock herl with white ostridge herl gills.
Brown with olive ribbing pheasant back, peacock herl with white ostridge herl gills.
olive with black ribbing pheasant back, peacock herl with white ostridge herl gills.
Olive with silver ribbing pheasant back, peacock herl with white ostridge herl gills.
Black with black ribbing pheasant back, peacock herl with white ostridge herl gills
Black with tan ribbing pheasant back, peacock herl with white ostridge herl gills
All white epoxy covered.
All tan epoxy covered
Brown with Black rib epoxy covered
White with tan ribbing epoxy covered.
Tan with Brown ribbing epoxy covered.
A ton of traditional red butt chronnies.
olive butt penny brights
tan butt penny brights
brown butt penny brights
black butt penny brights.
Yeah, I went on a 2 month midge tying bender a couple years ago. I gave away all of the ones that didn't work for me. Those are the ones I have left. All have caught fish. The pennybrites are my favorite. All of the patterns are common. nothing special. I'm pretty convinced that as long as you keep em skinny when you tie them, you'll be in good shape.
LOL caveman, just flipping a little sheit. :rofl: I need to work on my 12 step sensitivity program a bit. Breaking my cannon has caused me to relapse.
Sorry I didnt give my input earlier...as if it matters right...
I think all factors effect how a certain fly will fish. Color, size, profile, presentaion.....simply everything effects its success rate. The only way to combat this and boost success rates is to carry a bunch of flies. I like black/red, brown/red, olive/red.....that is ussually what I start with.
Loop knot: definitely an improvement over the standard clinch knot. Depth, I think, is most critical, followed by size and shape. The comment about color and what it looks like at different depths was confirmed in a book I read by a scientist who studied how light waves in water make colors appear different in water than what we see in the air. Depth, density and the amount of light penetrating the water column cause additional color changes compared with what we see above the water's surface. My guess is fly color closer to the surface is more important than color in deeper water. My motto is, if you aren't catching anything, change location, fly or fish until you do.