some of our scatterguns

Alex MacDonald

that's His Lordship, to you.....
#1
I thought I'd post some photos of some of our birdgetters in order to get used to using the new camera. Of course, her Ladyship, being my late father's favorite, got the good ones!
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If I've done this correctly, the first two are her LC Smith Ideal in 20 ga, the third one's her Dale Tate custom, also in 20ga, and finally, my little Belgian 28bore hammergun.
 

ribka

Active Member
#3
I would be too nervous to carry those in the field. I am always falling when I hunt chukars on steep rocky slopes. I broke the stock on my 11-87 last year when I fell. Or would end up scratching the stock chasing quail in the briars and sage brush. I usually take out a beat up 870 or BPS when I hunt birds or ducks. Very nice looking shotguns though.
 

Upton O

Blind hog fisherman
#5
Alex, those are sweet. I am particularly interested in your hammer gun.

Ribka: hunting with fine shotguns really adds to the hunt. Yes, they do get scratched and, on occasion, broken. I fell with one of my sxs's 10 years ago. It went skyward when I slipped and I watched in slow motion as it descended barrels first straight into the ground. Stuck like a javelin. Thank goodness the ground where it landed was mud. No damage but it took an hour to get the mud out. If you had a (and maybe you do have) top of the line Mercedes, would you leave it parked in the garage for fear someone will hit you or maybe ding the door in the grocery store parking lot or would you drive it around? If you hunt with me I'll let you hunt with a nice gun with no liability attached, well, maybe not after chukars but quail, pheasants, sure. You'll get a kick out of it. (maybe literally since they are very light guns).
 

Alex MacDonald

that's His Lordship, to you.....
#6
Thanks, Karl; My wife's guns don't get taken afield since she doesn't hunt (she'll enjoy the results plenty, though!!) The Belgian's a 112 year-old Guild gun, choked extra full and cylinder. It took a while to get used to upland with hammers, but I really prefer them now. The chokes allow me to pick which barrel depending on the situation, and I don't have to switch the safety-mounted selector like you'd have to do on a Franchi Veloce, say. I just slide the hand back a little and pull the rear trigger. The ability to slide your hand makes more sense if I had a straight English stock as opposed to that Prince of Wales grip. I got her from Kirby Hoyt at Vintage Doubles in Malaga, but believe me when I say you DON'T want to go in there with your wallet!! Another thing I wrestled with was the 2 1/2-inch chambers. Once I found RST shotshells back East, that problem was solved. The gun's actually proofed for black powder, not nitro, but they make low-pressure loads specifically designed for vintagers, including pattern-welded barrels. Most of the hammerguns you find are 12-bores, and the price goes up accordingly for the smaller guns. 410's are outrageous because they're few and far between, but he's got one now, for a decent price. Someday, I'll have a pattern-weld hammergun, probably in 20 or 28bore, just for upland birds, to go along with the waxed mustache, and the tweeds!
 

ribka

Active Member
#9
Karl nice offer might take you up. Have access to good quail hun and chukar hunting over in my area. Will use for quail and huns but not chukar. I fall at least 3 times an hour while chasing chukar
 

Upton O

Blind hog fisherman
#10
Ribka: the offer is a serious one but realize, as others have suggested, that once you are hooked with these guns, man, it can get expensive. As for falling chasing chukars, I fall down walking around the yard on occasion. My last chukar hunt was in 1998. We climbed up to the top of a ridge to work along sunny downslope of the crest (I learned as a kid never chase chukars up hill). When we were trying to get back down to the truck we couldn't figure out how to descend over the cliffs. After a half hour of searching we heard some rocks shifting and saw a mule deer doe climbing up toward us about a hundred yards off. We used her path but going the other way to get down.We hunted and hunted, never jumped a bird or saw any running. We heard them calling when we started and again when we were back at the car at the end of the hunt. Those birds are real ghosts. I think my time chasing those birds were my "peak" in bird hunting, I wish I had appreciated it more than I did at the time.
 

fodf

Team Umiak
#12
Alex, my hardware is comprised of Win model 12's handed down to me from my grandfather..hell I'm 60 so do the math. A 20 ga that I shot my first goose in the Skagit delta on family land..awesome stalk thru the timber..down the slope..cross the slough. I was 12 or 13..good times. Two 12's..one plugged when goose hunting at Mattawa. Barrel split..done day..had it cut down for a home security system..Tweakers beware. My backup goose gun is the Rem 870 that I took 3 cans of spray paint to to camo it up..looks awesome. That and the 20 are my two go too's.
 

Roper

Idiot Savant
#13
Mark, I take it that '97 has a bit of an open choke...?

Alex, great old guns you have there, or should I say she has there...
 

Alex MacDonald

that's His Lordship, to you.....
#15
My little Belgian's got a cylinder on one side, and an extra-full on the other. You do any SASS, Mark? Your scattergun's standard fare for cowboy action-great gun! Also Eric's Mod. 12's, classics in anybody's book!
 

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