Puget Sound At Her Finest

#31
Dave,

I think your post is exactly what the double standard comments refer too. Can you imagine if I tried to explain myself with a wet rock vs net vs not taking the picture excuse. Oh wait the option of not taking a picture, just releasing the fish, now there is and idea.
 
#32
Hey Rockfish, before you start casting "ugly" comments to other anglers why the eff don't you take a look at your avatars comment. Shame on you.
LMFAO
A fish is not far less damaged being dragged up on the rocks flopping around for a pic then being in a landing net with a hand glommed on it. Most of the time the hook falls out when the fish is in the net and you simply let it go. Anybody who fishes for cutthroat should have some type of landing net. I'm not singling out anybody, its just proper fish handling.
 

flybill

Purveyor of fine hackle, wine & cigars!
#34
My Oh My!

Leland knows how to handle fish in any given situation!

A fish on wet rocks is far less "damaged" than a fish in a net with a hand glommed on it.

There are times when a fish has to be taken onto the beach or shore just to remove the fly. That in my opinion is a better option than grabbing said fish in hand and doing the chore.

The problem with any pic is that it doesn't show a tme line. It only shows a moment without context.

Leland is an honorable man. Don't let your imagination get a hold of you.

Dave
Nicely said Dave! iagree
 

cabezon

Sculpin Enterprises
#35
There is a noisy small minority that treat these fish like they are newborn infants or fine china. Those whiners jump on any perceived deviation from their absolute standards. For example I had several folks look askance at a picture of a damn Blue Creek steelhead because they thought there might be an adipose there - morons. Of course, they lacked the cajones to ask me directly but whined to another board member who diplomatically stated their case.

Most of us, with more experience and more common sense, are more trusting of our fellow anglers to treat the fish that we play with in such a way that it doesn't cause permanent harm to the fish (unless it is a hatchery steelhead - in which case a wood shampoo is the only appropriate approach). Leland has handled more searun cutts than most of us can imagine our wildest fishy dreams. Frankly, I am willing to give newbies a pass too on most handling activities. O.K., fingers in the gills for a salmonid that you plan to release would be a no no.

Steve
 

Scott Orness

Small fish in a big pond
#36
Once upon a time there were many more extraordinary fly anglers like Leland on this forum and they no longer browse or more importantly educate us with their vast knowledge of saltwater fly fishing because of the critical comments.

Nice SRC Leland! Thanks for making me a better fisherman and turning me onto saltwater fly fishing.
 

SciGuy

Active Member
#41
I see ass kissers.

Cabezon, I think all fish that are destined for release should indeed be treated like a newborn infant or fine china... but that is not a minority opinion and it is sad that you think it is. That said, fish are slimey buggers and a hot fish can be difficult to handle...and, well, $hit happens sometimes. Yes, we all know what the poster has done for our sport, which is exactly why the pic was so shocking. An explanation would be helpful.

The idea that a fish on rocks is less damaged than in a net is just dumb.
 
#42
Aw snap!!! I can't believe this thread is still going!!!! Geez, cut some slack for cryin' out loud!!! So sure, it's not the ideal way to handle a fish! I don't think ANY of us would regularly handle a fish like that.

That said for all of you who trip on possibly damaging the fish....uh don't fish! Has the fish ever told you that it preferred being hooked in the mouth, then played with the hook in it's mouth, getting all stressed out during the fight to being laid on some rock? When you catch a fish you 'jack it up', for lack of better terms.

If you want the fish to be handled like an infant wth are you hooking and fighting it for?

Ugh, sickening. I like to fish, I like to catch fish, hook 'em, fight 'em and bringing them to hand. I'll do the best I can to let it go so I can come back and torture it once more for my pleasure (not the fish's). And if in the process the fish dies, well sucks to be the fish, there will be others.

Let just all agree that we're down with some form of 'controlled' fish torture.
 

JesseC

Active Member
#43
Alexander I totally agree.

It's always comical to see the PETA hypocrites come out of the woodwork on this stuff. Give me a effing break. It's a fish, it's fine. If you're soooooo concerned about them then you probably shouldn't be wasting hours of your life trying to hook one through the damned mouth.

If you really want to get all riled up, then go talk to the gill netters, countless poachers, and other complete a-holes out there actually doing harm. This thread is a joke.
 

Bob Balder

Willing to learn anything...
#44
Aw snap!!! I can't believe this thread is still going!!!! Geez, cut some slack for cryin' out loud!!! So sure, it's not the ideal way to handle a fish! I don't think ANY of us would regularly handle a fish like that.

That said for all of you who trip on possibly damaging the fish....uh don't fish! Has the fish ever told you that it preferred being hooked in the mouth, then played with the hook in it's mouth, getting all stressed out during the fight to being laid on some rock? When you catch a fish you 'jack it up', for lack of better terms.[/PHP]If you want the fish to be handled like an infant wth are you hooking and fighting it for?
Ugh, sickening. I like to fish, I like to catch fish, hook 'em, fight 'em and bringing them to hand. I'll do the best I can to let it go so I can come back and torture it once more for my pleasure (not the fish's). And if in the process the fish dies, well sucks to be the fish, there will be others.

Let just all agree that we're down with some form of 'controlled' fish torture.

There you go, that is it, go fishing or something huh? Wow, makes a guy afraid to post fish porn for fear he will be shunned for catching and releasing a fish he has been after for, in my case, weeks. I have been raked over the coals in this forum for a post and it isn't pleasant. Education is one thing but piling on, post after post arguing about what is worse, seaweed covered rocks or a net.....Jeeze, use your head, maybe some common sense. Get over yourself maybe....
Nice fish Leland, and no that is not ass kissing, nice fish.
 
#45
For the second time in this thread I agree with you Alexander. I also think the original point regarding the "double standard" has been lost. After all it's just fishing right?
 

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