Posting location specific reports on the interwebs: A collective discussion

#61
Two rather significant observations from reading this thread:
1. Sean, please remove that comma before your long interweb break commences. It's gonna bug me.
2. Stewart, I had a t-shirt with that on the back in '78. My teacher made me go home and change.
 

speyforsteel

Degenerate Caster
#62
Let me tell you how it works. I have been posting on this board for almost 10 years. Over 3 thousand mostly dumb ass posts but a few with some good information about fishing the Skagit It would not be a difficult task for anyone to figure out where I was fishing even if they don't follow my every word by looking at my profile and doing a simple search on my posts.

My story about the bar went completely over your head. That bar is gone. Washed completely away in the '03 flood. I could tell you the exact rock I was standing on and you could never find it. Since then there has not been another location on the Skagit that comes close to producing steelhead like that one did. If I were to post up a report about catching 20 bulls just below Hamilton yesterday, which I have done before, chances are no one will show up and if they did there is a good chance they would not catch anything because those fish move. So if the river changed its level by more than a few inches the entire run those fish were using will be different and different enough that they may move to an entirely different location on the river. The river is dynamic and the fish in it move as the conditions change. Runs that were fantastic last week hold nothing this week and next year may not even be around. If I could figure out everything that cause fish to hold at any given location and at any certain time and post that up. That would be the shitz.

My problem with all this net nanny crap is that most of what is posted nobody acts on and if they do they are using old info. Besides I doubt all these secret spots are ruined by posting on the internet. Some have some anecdotal information their spots were destroyed by net reports but mostly this is just hearsay. Nobody has any real proof the internet has ruined their fishing spots.

What has done more to harm fishing spots around here is the increased in population of the Georgia Basin. More people, more fishermen, crowded locations.
One of your not dumb ass posts
 

Flyborg

Active Member
#63
Kerry you fish the Skagit, which makes your observations on the subject pretty much null--none of us would believe you if you claimed to catch one fish there :)
 
#65
I knew this thread would ruffle some feathers and stir the pot a bit... But with all the tension on this topic lately, I figured it'd be good for us to get it all out. Poo pooing on someone's report is bad form. I'm guilty of it in the past, but have done my best to bite my tongue lately. It's just not worth it. Either way, I just wanted to explain my thoughts on the topic in detail, and hear what others thought.
 
#66
I'm a true blue-liner. Since I first got the fly fishing bug 17 years ago my best friend has been a map. Good fishing spots vary year by year, be it floods, crowds, disease, water quality,beaver dams, otters(yes otters. pretty in the ocean or big rivers, but will come through and completely wipe out yearclasses of wild fish in smaller streams). I would never divulge a spot that I had to earn the hard way. But the good spots constantly change. The hot spot last year may be a long shot this year.
The only pics I post up and report on are from Rufus Woods and Omak Lake. Both can support whatever this website can throw at them[ Colville Indian Reservation; American Angler]. Both have kicked out state records and are my favorite fisheries. Yet I have no fear of divulging that information. American Angler isn't the first mag to reveal this.
 

dryflylarry

"Chasing Riseforms"
#67
I knew this thread would ruffle some feathers and stir the pot a bit... But with all the tension on this topic lately, I figured it'd be good for us to get it all out. Poo pooing on someone's report is bad form. I'm guilty of it in the past, but have done my best to bite my tongue lately. It's just not worth it. Either way, I just wanted to explain my thoughts on the topic in detail, and hear what others thought.
Good post Evan! I decided long ago there are a LOT of Blabbermouths on here. (You know who you are.....) They just don't know how to STFU. Once a blabbermouth, always a blabbermouth. :beathead:
 

powderglut

My Kind Of Wave
#68
I joined this forum for one reason. That was to get some info on beach fishing the San Juans. (10 day trip for wifes bday next fall) Hopefully I got enuf to have some success. That said, If I flog the water for 2hrs every day before everyone gets up and catch nothing, I still will have had a sweet morning on the beach with the hopes of a big tug.
I don't live in Washinton, so as an outsider, I hoped to get something that might give me a better than even chance of finding fish. A beach or park, incoming or outgoing tide, etc. (Which you guys gave me.) Obviously when we go out to fish, we believe we are going to catch something. It's why we have all the different rods and lines and flies.
For you guys, these "reports" may be your everyday water. I can see how irritating it can be to find some meats occupying your favorite run. I too have noticed the unequal number of members and so called lurkers. I wonder if a lot of them are people, that just like the read, and would rather not participate. Maybe living in a small Colorado town, where I don't lock my car or my home makes me a little too naive to assess this fairly.
I know the media can have an effect on the popularity of a place. Example: NW Flyfishing magazine. John Shewey article on the Imnaha River in Oregon. If any of you read it, you can't help, not wanting to be swinging Spawning Purples for eager steelhead in a pristine setting like that. Apparently there was a very large spike in visitors after that article.
These days we use all the available resources to help us get an edge. I for one like it. We don't always have the money to hire a guide which in most cases would put you notches above the guy walking in blind. These small tidbits of info just might be the difference in fish or no fish. I do believe.. we do this because we love to catch fish on the fly!
My 2 cents. Time to get dressed and ski powder.
 
#69
Ya know what pisses me off is when you have someone PM you and ask for info then never comes back with a thank you, kiss my ass or nothing.
So WTF
Most people that know where I'm gonna go fish will stay away.
Somebody let the dog out.
DD
 
#70
I'm a true blue-liner. Since I first got the fly fishing bug 17 years ago my best friend has been a map. Good fishing spots vary year by year, be it floods, crowds, disease, water quality,beaver dams, otters(yes otters. pretty in the ocean or big rivers, but will come through and completely wipe out yearclasses of wild fish in smaller streams)...
Yep, that beaver has screwed up many a fishing day for me. The damn Beav had me on the roof hanging freaking christmass lights last sunday. :beathead:
 

Dan Nelson

Hiker, Fisher, Writer, Bum
#71
From the home page:
"It's a community site, run by anglers for anglers. Content is provided by the site but mostly, as with any good community based site, it's a mechanism to share info, stories & photos between each other."

I know that I've been the benefactor of guarded information and that information shall not be shared. I know I have shared information via reports and photos and gotten some nasty comments in public threads, private messages and even phone calls. I know that I too will share what I feel I am willing to share. So far I'm pretty sure, unless drunk and spouting off, that I've not betrayed the trust of those that have given me great information or taken me along on trips that they told me were not to be pimped out. My position may make me a less than desireable fishing partner...that is not up to me.
iagree
 

Dan Nelson

Hiker, Fisher, Writer, Bum
#72
I'm going to start posting decoy fishing reports to throw everyone off. I'll create several new WFF identities and will post photos of fish I "pimp" from elsewhere on the web to make the reports look legit. That'll throw up enough noise that the lurkers will stop lurking.
Truth be told, when I used to create weekly "Hiking Reports" packages for the Seattle Times (basically, a listing of 5 'recommended' wilderness hikes for the coming weekend), I would always include trails I had no intention of visiting that summer. I would also make sure the recommendations were well clear of any trails I planned to hike that weekend (as in, at least one if not two basins away at least). This did a remarkable job of helping preserve some solitude for me those few summers I did that.
 

JesseC

Active Member
#73
Posting a super detailed fishing report is the same thing as talking about making love with your wife.

It ain't right. That won't stop some people from talking and some people from listening. But, it's not my game.
 

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