Seattle Kman is DOA?

#16
You raise a couple of interesting points. First, a disclaimer: I've got all the gear I need or want and I'm not gonna be in the market for much these days other than replacing consumables like leaders, tippet, hooks, floatant, etc.

Nonetheless, I'm with you about being touchie-feelie when it comes to supplies and materials. I want to be able to see what color that dubbing is with my own eyes instead of rely on a catalog or web site's description. As a result, I rarely buy tying materials online.

But the larger issue you raise is the notion that one can find cheaper prices online than in a shop. In my experience, that's simply not true. Nearly all the gear manufacturers sell to both brick and mortar shops and web stores with signed MSRP agreements in place. As a result, the only time you're gonna find a Sage rod, Simms waders, a Rio line or a Ross reel anywhere that's cheaper than MSRP is when the manufacturers themselves decide to blow out their existing supply before introducing a newer model.

But that's just my experience. Perhaps you or someone else can post a link to a name-brand product online that's being offered for less than MSRP (closeouts and discontinued products don't count)?

Thanks in advance,

K
http://redtruckflyfishing.com/p/s/viewitem.aspx?p=lug-fis-dako-000-0000-sitk and a but load of other stuff at this same site
 
#18
Damn shame, Kevin and Bob taught me a lot. I used to go down there and shoot the shit, buy stuff, and learn. Really the location is to blame for me not going, I hate downtown seattle.
 
#19
While I agree with the "shop local" bit, the fact is, a lot of us have no "local." When that is the case, we're forced to rely on catalogs and websites, and sometimes phone calls. The Kaufmann catalog has really slipped in recent times, at least in my opinion. And like many fly shop web sites, theirs wasn't anything to write home about. It's not that I want to see local business go away, but some of the onus is also on them.
 
#20
yeah, if you have no local shop, then online is definitely your only option. Since I don't shop for gear online or from catalogue I can't comment as to the quality of these resources
 
#21
I bought my first Sage from them probably 16 years ago. Blair was a great help in picking out the right rod for the tyoe of fishing I was looking to do. Parking was a bugger, but at the time I worked downtown and it was easy to just walk over there after work. Haven't been there in awhile, but it is sad to hear.
 
#22
First, a disclaimer: I've got all the gear I need or want and I'm not gonna be in the market for much these days other than replacing consumables like leaders, tippet, hooks, floatant, etc K
Come on Kent, unless your wife is reading your posts you don't have to BS us.:rofl:

I'm with you on the need to actually see and feel stuff. Especially tying material. It's tougher being a long way from any shops though. I have found many shops will take a phone order and mail you things. If it's something you don't need to match color or size to it's pretty handy and still pretty fast.
 

Kent Lufkin

Remember when you could remember everything?
#23
Come on Kent, unless your wife is reading your posts you don't have to BS us.:rofl:
Too funny Steve! Lugan sent me a PM after I posted that and suggested I might be a gear whore! Guilty as charged. Thankfully my wife could give two shits about my gear closet.

One of us here who shall not be named (although he is a past president of the WFFC) actually changed his onscreen name a year or so back when his wife got wind of how much time he'd been spending here.

K
 

Kent Lufkin

Remember when you could remember everything?
#24
Redtruck's prices on Sage rods are exactly the same as Sage's web site. For example, compare the TCX series at http://redtruckflyfishing.com/onlineshop-fly_fishing_rods-sage_fly_fish-tcx_series and then at http://www.sageflyfish.com/dyn_prodlist.php?k=242753.

Anybody can sell gear below MSRP, but not if they expect to ever be able to order more from the factory.

K
 

Kent Lufkin

Remember when you could remember everything?
#25
I'm with you on the need to actually see and feel stuff. Especially tying material.
Jeez Steve, you need to start paying closer attention to road kill! I got some great mallard flank from a duck that'd been hit by a car on the road in front of my house. Last summer, I found a dead flicker on the sidewalk that's contributed to some dandy soft hackles. Yep, it's technically illegal to possess bird feathers in this state, but I don't know many guys who let that stop 'em.

K
 
#26
I'm not surprised. I stopped at the downtown store in September before a trip to Alaska and their inventory was low then. The place looked like a lot of businesses the last few years, just hanging on.

Support our local fly shops. I did some Xmas shopping for my sons yesterday at Orvis and today up at Avid Angler. Both great stores.
 
#27
That's a discontinued color, and everything else you see there at a discount is likely discontinued as they buy lots of discontinued products specifically for that purpose.
wow so its a discontinued color oooohhhh. well how about the simms womens waders on there are they discontinued? maybe they are an odd size hmmm. whatever Red truck is an outlet for Lelands who clears stuff for simms and far banks ect. ........ these clear outs are with the blessings of the manufacturers, but hey they aint to blame if they force the small shop to "pre-season" order more shit than they can sell. ooooh well. and if it is just the shops that cant adapt or have bad locations how about the Reno fly shop? guess what dead buy years end after 30 yrs of selling xyz most popular brands of whatever the manufacturers start whoring themselves out to "mega slut mart" and viola the rest is history..... problem is if you are new to the sport read that NOT BORN WITH A FLY/SPEY ROD IN YOUR HAND ( like some of you esteemed folks on this board) try getting good equipment or help at cabelas!!!! Oh and what is cabelas or other mega stores going to try to sell you? thats right their own line of stuff so the manufacturers are shooting themselves in the foot.
 
#28
this thread reads like an obit that hasn't been finished. it will be interesting to see what happens.
regardless of the outcome, i sure hope they show more class than they did with the bellevue closing.
they ought to get a keg and do it right! and take advantage of the shop and the opportunity to connect with people in a meaningful way.
doing that is tough in the face of laying off employees, but all of us are still going to be around and if they go 100% online, then they still need us.
 
#29
Redtruck's prices on Sage rods are exactly the same as Sage's web site. For example, compare the TCX series at http://redtruckflyfishing.com/onlineshop-fly_fishing_rods-sage_fly_fish-tcx_series and then at http://www.sageflyfish.com/dyn_prodlist.php?k=242753.

Anybody can sell gear below MSRP, but not if they expect to ever be able to order more from the factory.

K
you have got be kidding me they (and they know who they are) do not enforce that at all. go to ebay and look up new "xyz" fly rod and see how many pop up for sell less than retail with warranty card. who are you trying to kid cmon
 
#30
I think that with the presence of the internet, it really makes the need for the local guys to step it up a bit with better customer service and also more of a presence on the internet. What I like, from a business owners perspective, is that our website offers a passive income with no real work per say. But I love talking with and helping customers too. I think if the website is done well, there to educate people, changed often, etc... it will do well.

just my opinion.