sage 1016 - light line casting

James Mello

Inventor of the "closed eye conjecture"
I think Bob has some of his vids on vimeo or on his profile page on this site. I know I've seen them. Definately not a rank beginner.
I was wondering if anyone had those videos handy somewhere. Would be great to watch as I like watching cast of all sorts, and maybe I could learn something....
 
Mark, I eagerly await your development as a long line caster so you can start winning distance competitions with a 400 gr. line on a 10 wt. rod. That'll be a video worth watching......all due respect.
 

SpeySpaz

still an authority on nothing
I was wondering if anyone had those videos handy somewhere. Would be great to watch as I like watching cast of all sorts, and maybe I could learn something....
Most of my vids are of line experiments and trying out various lines on new rods, or especially to troubleshoot a certain cast. I had a rod/line combo that finally broke the 150 barrier for me, yet after I set it down for a few months and scandicast for most of the summer I couldn't do shit. As you will see.
So this is what I look like with a lousy anchor, no extension, and a low forward stop: definitely not a vid engineered to make me look good.

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I won't stoop far enough to make purty little casts and post them on the net as proof of worth, James, I grew out of that awhile ago, RELATIVELY speaking. The worth of this vid was that I got my juju back after examining my horrible form closely. I got back to about a consistent 140+, ascending loop, fishable cast a couple weeks later- which was just in time for the flows to go through the roof...better luck next year, LOL!
But at least there was a hatchery fish for the freezer the day of this vid...good times.

edit: I tried to upload some other vids, of my absolute worst casts ever, 'cuz I'm really getting into this now, but the files are too big.
 
Most of my vids are of line experiments and trying out various lines on new rods, or especially to troubleshoot a certain cast. I had a rod/line combo that finally broke the 150 barrier for me, yet after I set it down for a few months and scandicast for most of the summer I couldn't do shit. As you will see.
So this is what I look like with a lousy anchor, no extension, and a low forward stop: definitely not a vid engineered to make me look good.

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I won't stoop far enough to make purty little casts and post them on the net as proof of worth, James, I grew out of that awhile ago, RELATIVELY speaking. The worth of this vid was that I got my juju back after examining my horrible form closely. I got back to about a consistent 140+, ascending loop, fishable cast a couple weeks later- which was just in time for the flows to go through the roof...better luck next year, LOL!
But at least there was a hatchery fish for the freezer the day of this vid...good times.

edit: I tried to upload some other vids, of my absolute worst casts ever, 'cuz I'm really getting into this now, but the files are too big.
hmmm, maybe 100', inefficient load,, cast off the tip into a pile,, with about a 15 degree angle change.

I am not impressed by your performance Jedi master. Maybe I should take you up on that call out after all.:rofl:
 

SpeySpaz

still an authority on nothing
wrong wrong wrong. 75' head, 20 leader, shot a couple three rod lengths. Angle change was very healthy, greater than 45, hard to see with camera angle.
Correct on (far) less than perfect load, but you failed to mention lousy snake out of plane, high sweep, curved anchor too close, forward creep, inadequate torso and hip rotation, and an ugly low stop. Didn't get the bottom out far enough or early enough, it killed the cast.


Now let's see yours. You have been called out. That's one of my worst, let's see one of your good ones. Anything over 100 will do. Be prepared to display your knowledge by critiquing your own cast. How's your self-confidence doing today?

See, this is real world. We don't stand on land and pop little switch casts out. And every cast isn't perfect. And there are few true authorities on this...especially not me. But this is what I did after being away from the rod for months, which also happens, and I caught a fish that day, which also happens. And I know self-serving bullshit when I see it.
So throw it down, T. We'll be gentle. Or you, Mark, let's see some longbelly magic on a real river, with wet legs. I'm so lousy, I should be easy to show up.
 
wrong wrong wrong. 75' head, 20 leader, shot a couple three rod lengths. Angle change was very healthy, greater than 45, hard to see with camera angle.
Correct on (far) less than perfect load, but you failed to mention lousy snake out of plane, high sweep, curved anchor too close, forward creep, inadequate torso and hip rotation, and an ugly low stop. Didn't get the bottom out far enough or early enough, it killed the cast.


Now let's see yours. You have been called out. That's one of my worst, let's see one of your good ones. Anything over 100 will do. Be prepared to display your knowledge by critiquing your own cast. How's your self-confidence doing today?

See, this is real world. We don't stand on land and pop little switch casts out. And every cast isn't perfect. And there are few true authorities on this...especially not me. But this is what I did after being away from the rod for months, which also happens, and I caught a fish that day, which also happens. And I know self-serving bullshit when I see it.
So throw it down, T. We'll be gentle. Or you, Mark, let's see some longbelly magic on a real river, with wet legs. I'm so lousy, I should be easy to show up.
75' head, three rod lengths shot and 20' leader??? Ha ha,, surely you can't be selling that junk cast as a 140 footer?? Time to get a protrator and tape measure. Makes sense now how you're hitting "140' consistently" Lol. No worries about my self confidence,, my manhood is not measured by how far I can throw a line

Speyspaz, there's an old saying in Texas holdem,, "don't bluff the calling station"

Cheers
 

SpeySpaz

still an authority on nothing
Let's see your vid, Clem. Or shut up. It's not about manhood, it's about your big mouth and you playing the ass.
C'mon, spank the Spaz. You've seen my worst, let's see your best. Hell, I'll call it one rod length shot, 5' leader. Feel more comfortable now? You have better form? I and everybody else are interested to see. This thread IS about good efficient casting, right?
Oh, and don't forget the self-critique, it's very important to be able to analyze your own cast from vid. That's what vid is really for, though some use it for fluffing their self-worth, RELATIVELY speaking...
Kind of hilarious how you rolled right back into "I don't measure my manhood by how far I can cast" as soon as you were called out. This whole thread is about shortbelly poseurs. At least I'm willing to learn from the greats who have been insulted in this thread.

Some of the best casters around have weighed in on this thread and you're too chickenshit to take on l'il ol' me? There's an old saying in Jersey, "shit or get off the pot".:thumb:
 

SpeySpaz

still an authority on nothing
Mark,
You're a wonderful artist and seem to be a nice enough man, but you'll need to pull your head out. Anytime would be fine.
Still waiting for Mr T, or you, to post ass-deep longbelly vid from a river, showing the mastery of these concepts you claim to understand so well.
I'm not engaging in personal attack, I'm asking for you to back up your talk and calling a guy out for being a weenie. When you set yourself up as an "expert" you can pretty much expect that to happen. As TDave can expect his response.
C'mon, post one and critique it. Let's see what you've got.
 

ralfish

Active Member
Being able to review video of yourself casting can be a great learning tool. I just recently saw a video of my self single speying out a 70' head 18' leader and shooting around 20', all very comfortably across and into wind, but when I look at the video, it really looks brutal as far as form goes, open loop, out of plane, and it looks like I'm barely breaking 45'. Yet I do know I was changing direction of at least 50 degrees , dealing with wind and still getting out to where I wanted, very comfortably. It just didn't look too pretty...