Steelhead flies you gotta have....

#31
I like to call it, "Rez chrome". Short for Indian reservation chrome....or is that the term I use for Duct Tape? :hmmm:
No that is not a term you use for duct tape. Really? it's 2011, leave the stereotypical racist stuff behind like 99% of the civilized world...
 
#32
No that is not a term you use for duct tape. Really? it's 2011, leave the stereotypical racist stuff behind like 99% of the civilized world...
Really? I work for tribe and was told that by about a dozen Native Americans. So it's only funny if they say it right? Some of my good friends are Native Americans. If you want to be over sensitive that's your choice, in the meantime I'll laugh along with my friends.
 
#33
Yeah yeah, black people call each other the "n" word too. Still doesn't make it right, and indians perpetuating stereotypical stuff like that isn't right either. It's how we have been part of the problem in keeping ourselves oppressed since european contact. So to answer your question, no, it's not only funny if they say it. In fact it's less funny, even sad when they say it.
 

Chad Lewis

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#34
Okay, I get it. So I tie and fish whatever the hell I want. I'm gonna like this steelhead fishing.

Now I'm gonna peace out and roll with ma' honkies, yo'.
 
#35
Yeah yeah, black people call each other the "n" word too. Still doesn't make it right, and indians perpetuating stereotypical stuff like that isn't right either. It's how we have been part of the problem in keeping ourselves oppressed since european contact. So to answer your question, no, it's not only funny if they say it. In fact it's less funny, even sad when they say it.
You know, maybe that's what the problem is. Us white boys telling other ethnic groups what they "should" and "shouldn't" be offended by. Can you think of anything more humiliating or "racist"?

We are "apparently" smarter, in that we "the white man" have to explain to them when something is racist. Why don't we let them decide on their own. They've fought to hard to get where they are at...without us controling how they should feel. Remember, they were the ones that told me the joke in the first place. By the way, some of them have master and bachelor degrees.

Chad, have a blast man! Lot's of great advice too. Some that I've even forgot how simple it can be sometimes. Steelhead fishing can do that to a guy. I think I have about $1500 of material that I will never use, because I've narrowed down the patterns I tie to about 4 or 5.
 

Codioos

Active Member
#36
You know, maybe that's what the problem is. Us white boys telling other ethnic groups what they "should" and "shouldn't" be offended by. Can you think of anything more humiliating or "racist"?

We are "apparently" smarter, in that we "the white man" have to explain to them when something is racist. Why don't we let them decide on their own. They've fought to hard to get where they are at...without us controling how they should feel. Remember, they were the ones that told me the joke in the first place. By the way, some of them have master and bachelor degrees.
^Truth^
 
#39
There are too many experts here. Just use a WB in black or olive and you should be good to go.

Fishing for Steelhead isn't rocket science. If a WB doesn't work try a Green Butt Skunk.
There is iron in the words of the savvy chief, OMJ. What could go ever go wrong with a wooly bugger? If all else fails, use the pink worm.
 
#40
Toss in a different perspective here on 'fly choice.' Some of the most effective I've found are Atlantic salmon patterns (on double hooks where legal) such as the Flamethrower and Cascades 'close to the salt' and the Willie Gunn higher up a stream. These things have been consistent producers of hook-ups. If a 'double hook' is legal, the fish just touches that thing and you've got him.
 
#41

Throw something black, and if that doesn't work, throw something purple.

Throw it in the right place and present it properly, and you will find some players.

It might sound like a gross oversimplification, but I think folks spend WAY too much time overthinking steelhead fishing.

Presentation - 95%
Pattern - 5%
G_Smolt nailed it.
It is all about line management​
 
#43
Clear Water = Burlap, Semi Clear Water - Black , Not Very Clear Water - big Purple. Move the flies the same speed you move an object that makes a cat attack the object, no slower, no faster. Cover water that has fish in it.
 
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golfman65

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#44
I try and change it up...If others have gone through before me, I go smaller..If I'm on a gear river and know the fish have seen pink worms all day...I'm going small again and dark...When the weather is warming I think "food"...
Sat. on a small flow that thanks to a local "blog" fish shop up north..was over run with low holing gear guys...I had been fishing some Alex jackson style skagit flies but switched to my go to "bully" fly..something in a completely different color...Did the A.H.E. Wood swing through the higher colored water next to a seam and bingo...nice little wild steel came to play....Something very gratifying about pick pocketing gear guys..
 
#45
For me it's all about " The Cocktail Shrimp" from Orvis.. Ask Leland, he will tell you why..

All the fish I caught have a little orange and a little black.
Those were my favorite corkie and yarn too, when I use my spinning rod..

I guess the moral of the story is fish whatever you have with confident and stick with it, it like work, it will payoff some day, with your fish, and when that happen, you a believer in that one fly, for awhile, than you will start to experience with other pattern and color..

Somehow I alway come back to something familiar.. Good luck
 

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