Whip Finish Incapable

#16
I make my students practice on a bare hook untile they master the whip finisher befor they get to tie their first fly. If they don't get it I flog them with a wet rabbit skin. Tere is no giving up because it is too hard. This is not a hobby for whiners.;)
 
#17
I make my students practice on a bare hook untile they master the whip finisher befor they get to tie their first fly. If they don't get it I flog them with a wet rabbit skin. Tere is no giving up because it is too hard. This is not a hobby for whiners.;)
Not the old wet rabbit skin punishment. Do you lash them to a fly rod and rip the shirt off their back, like in the movies?
:eek:
 
#19
Freestoneangler- I am with you. I have fought it for years and finally decided to hell with it- yes, bad atitude. Maybe one of these days I will head over to jesse's for a class and learn. I do same about the half hitches and some gookumpucky, and good to go. It has worked for 25 years, but no excuses.
 
#20
I will fess up now. The whip finish tool for many is hard to learn. I use all three methods as needed; the whip finish tool, whip finishing with my fingers and the half hitch method. I think the tool works best for most tyers if they learn it early. It is hard to learn from watching video. I teach students by having them stand behind me then working with thm until they get it. I really do make them practice on a bare hook until they are comfortable with the tool before we move on to tying. The other thing is the choice of tools there simply are some that are easier to teach than others.
 

zen leecher aka bill w

born to work, forced to fish
#22
Well.... if a person can chew gum and wave a fly rod at the same time, they should be able to use a whip finisher.

But if the person is winding the thread in the opposite direction it doesn't matter how much gum they can chew. It's about impossible.
 
#23
Have you heard the one about the tourist in New York City who approached a New York City Policeman and asked "how do I get to Carnegie Hall"? The Officer answered, "Practice, practice, practice."
Jackd
 

freestoneangler

Not to be confused with Freestone
#25
Youtube. their are some great videos on there and very easy to learn.
(that whip finish tool in the video is very big)
good luck
Excellent and so simple. The problem is that he is winding his thread the wrong way...what's with that? :eek:

Honestly, one of the reasons I simply use a simple half-hitch is that I find it easier to lock down my last turn while also keeping hackle fibers and or deer hair from getting loose. I have used that same tool and can make it work, but it just seems awkward to me. So, it finds itself at the bottom of some box rarely seeing the light of day.
 
#27
I use four different types of whip finishers for different situations. Matarelli for most flies, large matarelli for flies with bead heads, thompson on hackled flies, and tiemco on a few patterns. They all take practice and a good teacher to learn how to use.

Keep at it. I think it makes a difference and you'll notice that your flies are more durable.
 

Drifter

Active Member
#29
Being an old tier I'm with dryflylarry - who cares!

Just another tool to look for and loose under all the other crap on my tying table. Its hard enough finding my needle for glue half the time. I say just tie flies that work so you don't have to tie 100 flies or need to speed tie and need a whip finish tool. By the time I pick up another tool and get it ready for the whip I could be done with half hitches. Besides I now half hitch at the back and middle of the hook or before putting more material on like wings or bead heads and the such. MY knot tool is letting my forefinger and thumb nail grow. Its hard to teach old dogs new tricks but impossible if they don't want to learn in the first place.

Some of the new stuff is great, some of it I just don't need to "BUY" into. like having to buy a 14 ft. rod for steelheading, new huge reel, and 150 ft. lines. don't need no freaking whip finish tool either! been catching fish with half hitched flies for 40 years and plan to for another 20 IF I live that long!
 

zen leecher aka bill w

born to work, forced to fish
#30
Excellent and so simple. The problem is that he is winding his thread the wrong way...what's with that? :eek:

Honestly, one of the reasons I simply use a simple half-hitch is that I find it easier to lock down my last turn while also keeping hackle fibers and or deer hair from getting loose. I have used that same tool and can make it work, but it just seems awkward to me. So, it finds itself at the bottom of some box rarely seeing the light of day.
All you need to do is the mirror image of that and reverse turn and you will be done.
 

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