Has guideline shot themselves in the foot

Dan Page

Active Member
#16
I've often wondered how rod design changes with the changing rod user market. How much are the old designs changed to accommadate the influx of less experienced casters, to make the rods more "user friendly"? I've read on several posts the old Le Cies were too "fast" for beginners. I don't agree with that, but I suspect such comments affect what beginners will purchase. Could it be a rod maker will change design to capture more of the influx of new casters?
 

yuhina

Tropical member
#17
Mark, this appears to be the case from recent posts I've seen on UK based fishing boards. But the real problem (in my simplistic view) is the lack of a real National Distribution system is what brings them to their knees. As well known as Hardy may be, until they hooked up with major national distributor they weren't going anywhere .........

Their 'old reels' (actually made in England) still command an astonishing price, but its because of the 'History' behind the product. Ever actually consider what's in one of their reels? Zip, but the price they want for a new one just makes me roll my eyes.
fae
Good to hear the thoughts from Europe , I wonder if they consider the same factors when buying SAGE or loomis...

The reel is a good point... How many people will consider "repair service
"as part of the equation? I don't... Because there is tiny chance to have a reel failure compare to rod. I won't hesitate to buy unique , samll companies from Japan or Sweden. And if it fail... There are so many experts in the us can fix it for you with samll fee.
 

John Hicks

Owner and operator of Sea Run Pursuits
#18
I think when they went to four piece rods instead of three, that really screwed them up!!!
Justin, I have to totally disagree with you. I have cast the three piece for an entire summer and I own the 4 piece. I don't think that there is enough difference between the two to merit saying they "screwed them up!!!"

Just my .02 cents having cast both extensively that is.
 

TallFlyGuy

Adipossessed!
#19
Justin, I have to totally disagree with you. I have cast the three piece for an entire summer and I own the 4 piece. I don't think that there is enough difference between the two to merit saying they "screwed them up!!!"

Just my .02 cents having cast both extensively that is.
Cool, do you have a three piece lecie 7wt you wanna sell, or know anyone who does?
 

John Hicks

Owner and operator of Sea Run Pursuits
#21
Cool, do you have a three piece lecie 7wt you wanna sell, or know anyone who does?

There were a couple floating around speypages a few weeks ago. I personally would pass on the 3 piece as they cannot be fixed if broken as far as I know. The 4 pieces guideline still has blanks for. I could be wrong.
 

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