Allen Olympic Spey

Josh

dead in the water
#17
Rio's Scandi short comes as a head in the straight floating head or the versitip head. Not a full line.
Not sure why I thought it was the full line. Probably the $120 price.

It appears that the options are the versitip or the head with floating tip. They are both listed as being the same length/weight. So I'm not sure if there is anything different about the versitip other than the three other tips, wallet, and costing $60 more.
 
#18
Repeating myself here, but when you settle down on 'which rod' the next guy you want to call is Steve Godshall here in Medford, Oregon. Steve builds custom cut lines for 2handers (gather he may do the same for one handers). There probably isn't a 2hander built that he doesn't have the true spec's on same. What gets painted on the blank has damned little to do with much. Had the chance to see his reference book (all self generated numbers) and it had hundreds of rods listed.

That "7" could be a 6.8 or a 7.3 and line wise it makes a heck of a difference. Add to that he works in where you fish (type of water), what fish you'll be chasing, and your casting style. You and I have exactly the same rod, would be unusual if you and I got the (exact) same line. Best yet, it will not cost you a dime more than something off the shelf.

Lines can be ordered as 'just a head,' as a full line (with colour changes so you know the casting point vis a vis the rod tip), etc. On one of mine, knowing the rod length he spliced in a complete colour change in the top13-9 of the shooting line. Next cast? Just bring the 'orange bit' down to the cork. No looking at the rod tip, no fuss, just strip in to 'there' and let her rip.

fae
 

ten80

Active Member
#19
I really like casting an Airflo multi tip 8/9wt Delta on my 8wt allen. I can even bust out long casts that make me look like I know what I'm doing. Of course, the rod also throws a 600gr skagit compact with 10ft of T14 very nicely.
 

yuhina

Tropical member
#20
Repeating myself here, but when you settle down on 'which rod' the next guy you want to call is Steve Godshall here in Medford, Oregon. Steve builds custom cut lines for 2handers (gather he may do the same for one handers). There probably isn't a 2hander built that he doesn't have the true spec's on same. What gets painted on the blank has damned little to do with much. Had the chance to see his reference book (all self generated numbers) and it had hundreds of rods listed.

That "7" could be a 6.8 or a 7.3 and line wise it makes a heck of a difference. Add to that he works in where you fish (type of water), what fish you'll be chasing, and your casting style. You and I have exactly the same rod, would be unusual if you and I got the (exact) same line. Best yet, it will not cost you a dime more than something off the shelf.

Lines can be ordered as 'just a head,' as a full line (with colour changes so you know the casting point vis a vis the rod tip), etc. On one of mine, knowing the rod length he spliced in a complete colour change in the top13-9 of the shooting line. Next cast? Just bring the 'orange bit' down to the cork. No looking at the rod tip, no fuss, just strip in to 'there' and let her rip.

fae
Good post Fred!

It seems Steve has figured out some consistent formula to tailor different lines to a designed rod. That said, a trained hand can cast variety of lines by adjusting different casting strokes... but it's really cool to see many people appreciate the good work from the line wizard! : )
 
#21
Looking at the Allen Olympic Spey rod in a 6 or 7wt. Anyone have any experience with it? I would be using it for swinging for Steelhead, My current 8wt Loop seems a little too stiff for the size of fish in the river. Looking for something with a bit softer flex to it to even out the fight. My concern with going to the 6wt is that it would be too light of a rod for steelhead. i currently use a 6wt switch for bass fishing and could not imagine using it for the medium sized river for larger steelhead.
I dont know if my buddy just got a lemon or what but he bought a new Olympic and it broke on the first time out..... Hopefully just a lemon but something to think about...
 

ten80

Active Member
#22
You say you don't know why it broke, so why bother posting about it? Rods break all the time due to poor handling and long casting sessions with loose ferrules. Allen has a great warranty and I'm sure they'd like to hear from your friend about any issues with his rod. Mine has been great.
 
#23
You say you don't know why it broke, so why bother posting about it? Rods break all the time due to poor handling and long casting sessions with loose ferrules. Allen has a great warranty and I'm sure they'd like to hear from your friend about any issues with his rod. Mine has been great.
Well I am glad yours is great, but my buddy takes good care of his stuff and he knows how to check and set up a rod. The first time the rod was taken out of the tube by him it broke, just saying. I am not trying to knock allan at all. I dont know about there warranty and I do not have experience with that company. I am sure it is good and I have heard nothing but good things about Allen ( except my buddy). That being said i think a broken rod right off the bat sucks and could be relevant to a person shopping new rods. Take it for what it is worth and dont take an unfavorable review personal
 

yuhina

Tropical member
#24
Sooner or later rod will break, wether it is under normal use, or abuse. The only rod won't break is the one did not get fished. This is the reason you need a good company to take care of the repair or replace. That's said I still take the potential hassle to fish my CND rod ( no longer provide service on the n.a.). I consider that is the price to pay if the unfortunate finally arrives. So does other vintage rods I owned and fished. There is no complain here...life is too short to not fish good rods! Allen has a great service BTW.
 
#28
I am the poor sap that had the allen olympic break on me. Here are the facts. I purchased this rod from allen about 6months ago, it sat patiently in the case waiting for me to scratch up the dough for a reel and line. Upon completion of said scratching, I signed up for one of the clinics that avid angler does up at ben howard. About 15 minutes into the lesson the tip section shattered for no apparent reason. This had to have been a manufacturer defect or something similar. In all my days I have never had a rod break on me in such a fashion. Of course it was heartbreaking, but Evan Burck from Allen immediately put me at ease.. He responded to my text very promptly, and offered to make it right with no questions asked. The new rod section is on it's way as we speak. I have since read many reviews on the olympic and have found no sad tales like mine. I am chalking this one up to a fluke. These things happen. I have an allen ats 4w that I am very happy with, and I cannot see how Allen could've handled this situation any better. In my humble opinion their customer service is outstanding, and that goes a long way in my book. Shit Happens, right? It is how a company handles situations like this that really matter. Evan was very sypathetic and apologetic and I believe, very genuine.
 

Ian Broadie

Flyfishing is so "Metal"
#29
I am the poor sap that had the allen olympic break on me. Here are the facts. I purchased this rod from allen about 6months ago, it sat patiently in the case waiting for me to scratch up the dough for a reel and line. Upon completion of said scratching, I signed up for one of the clinics that avid angler does up at ben howard. About 15 minutes into the lesson the tip section shattered for no apparent reason. This had to have been a manufacturer defect or something similar. In all my days I have never had a rod break on me in such a fashion. Of course it was heartbreaking, but Evan Burck from Allen immediately put me at ease.. He responded to my text very promptly, and offered to make it right with no questions asked. The new rod section is on it's way as we speak. I have since read many reviews on the olympic and have found no sad tales like mine. I am chalking this one up to a fluke. These things happen. I have an allen ats 4w that I am very happy with, and I cannot see how Allen could've handled this situation any better. In my humble opinion their customer service is outstanding, and that goes a long way in my book. Shit Happens, right? It is how a company handles situations like this that really matter. Evan was very sypathetic and apologetic and I believe, very genuine.
Did the rod tip break at the ferrule? If it did one of the most common calamities when learning to cast a two handed fly rod is to loosen the top ferrule while getting the motions down. With the amount of energy stored in a rod at the time of the forward stroke if there is a weak spot (loose ferrule in this case) rather than transferring the energy in to the cast the energy will be transferred to the weakest point, the loose ferrule, and bam broken rod tip.
 

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