NFR: No Solution, just dead kids...

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Actually swapped the batteries a few weeks ago. No dice. Just going to have to wait til summer to see my garage door at night.
Maybe a moderator can move these to a new thread.

So we're not talking about those little "garden walkway" lights that you can buy at Lowe's for $29 with a "solar charger", huh? Dark days can be a bitch, no doubt about it. I assume they're charging a battery bank? Try switching to MPPT controllers, check wire sizes, add or replace batteries, add a panel. But in this state we'll need to pull power from the grid - or a generator - for at least 4 months of the year.

The whole point of "distributed" solar power is not to power your house all the time but to augment the existing power generation structure. If we can get enough people doing the augmenting that, combined with the ability of the power grid to "wheel" power to other locations, can reduce or maybe eliminate the need for new plants. Meaning no new nukes or coal or even natural gas.

The bonus is that the grid does not have to be changed; if you can pull 10kw out of the grid you can push 10kw back into it. Where it goes from there is not your concern.

Nice to see that so many people are now looking at this.

Craig
 

GAT

Dumbfounded
Strange turn of the thread... solar powered walkway lights. Oh well, I think the original topic has been beaten to death and the horse just isn't going to get up.
 
So what is a responsible use for a semi-automatic riffle with fragmenting bullets?
Having fun at the range, shooting varmints, admiring it in a collection, hunting, protection, etc. What's a resposible use for alcohol? As far as I can tell, there are far fewer and yet it's "responsible" for more deaths each year than "assault rifles". For the record I don't own an "assault rifle", and just because you don't own one or understand why responsible gun owners do, doesn't mean they have no good uses.

Probably the best feasible solutions (or things that would help) I've seen on the various threads are more strict requirements for obtaining guns (license to own, metal health tests, etc), a required safe if you own more than X number of guns (and possibly for any high capacity semi-auto weapons), more security at schools. Not sure I've seen it, but maybe you need to show your gun ownership "license" in order to buy ammo. I could be wrong but it seems many times these shooters steal these guns (don't own them) and obtain ammo through commercial outlets.
 
Second what Tom said, Craig. We regularly stored a ton or more in our barn, and diesel was all over the place. No problem getting more, either.
People who need nitrates and buy it get looked at. People who try to buy it but have no history of it, don't own a farm or work on a farm, or who the seller does not know at all, get looked at big time. You just didn't notice. Ask the guy who sold it to you.

Craig
 

Alex MacDonald

that's His Lordship, to you.....
People who need nitrates and buy it get looked at. People who try to buy it but have no history of it, don't own a farm or work on a farm, or who the seller does not know at all, get looked at big time. You just didn't notice. Ask the guy who sold it to you.

Craig
Nah, small town where everybody knew everybody else. We've had the place since we got in from Spain in the late 1700's though, down in CA in Yolo county. I doubt anybody even looked up.
 

alpinetrout

Banned or Parked
I was sloppy with that word; didn't mean to be dramatic. Should've written "fragmenting" or similar.
The purpose of fragmenting bullets (hollowpoints or similar) is to prevent over-penetration. The media likes to hype them up as being designed to cause maximum devastation when it suits their needs, but really they're so you don't inadvertently shoot through your target and hit an unintended victim. Interestingly, I saw this quote in a news article recently, which was much more accurate:

"A bill introduced in the South Carolina legislature Tuesday would allow school employees with concealed weapons licenses to carry guns at schools. The bill would require those workers to be certified as marksmen and use only breakable bullets to avoid ricochets."
 

ribka

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Be sure to purchase the good ones that fragment.


http://www.theonion.com/video/manufacturer-recalls-hollow-point-bullets-that-fai,14319/



The purpose of fragmenting bullets (hollowpoints or similar) is to prevent over-penetration. The media likes to hype them up as being designed to cause maximum devastation when it suits their needs, but really they're so you don't inadvertently shoot through your target and hit an unintended victim. Interestingly, I saw this quote in a news article recently, which was much more accurate:

"A bill introduced in the South Carolina legislature Tuesday would allow school employees with concealed weapons licenses to carry guns at schools. The bill would require those workers to be certified as marksmen and use only breakable bullets to avoid ricochets."
 

Jim Welch

Veni, Vidi, Fishi
Yet another good reason for a semiautomatic weapon:

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While the mass shootings get front page headline news, its the thousands of these situations that dont get the national news. Please don't let sensationalism override doing the right thing.

http://www.ajc.com/news/news/local/mother-of-two-surprises-burglar-with-five-gunshots/nTnGR/

http://www.theblaze.com/stories/ala...rself-and-her-ax-and-knife-wielding-daughters

http://www.americanretiredpersons.com/InsuranceServices/defengun.htm


A free people ought not only be armed and disciplined, but they should have sufficient arms and ammunition to maintain a status of independence from any who might attempt to abuse them, which would include their own government. George Washington
 

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Lugan

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Sorry to revive this exhausting thread, but I feel compelled to share what is, IMHO, the most thoughtful analysis of the gun violence and gun control issue I have yet read (and I have read many). This is from Sam Harris, who is infamous as a vocal atheist. His conclusion about guns is that we cannot control them because of what I said somewhere in the beginning of this long thread: The gun genie is out of the bottle in the US. These are long articles, but highly recommended no matter what side of the issue you are on:

http://www.samharris.org/blog/item/the-riddle-of-the-gun

Follow-up article answering critics of the first: http://www.samharris.org/blog/item/faq-on-violence
 
Everyone over-complicates this. We already control some guns successfully: fully automatic weapons. You can't just go to Cabelas and buy one. Most of us could get the permits to own them but we just don't bother. We could do much the same with assault-type weapons.

The gun lobby likes to get their people motivated under the guise of "they're taking away our guns". No one has to have guns taken away. Just change the permitting process.

Craig
 

Ed Call

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I'm working with one local school on improved response planning. When we get it working we will spread the plans to other schools. It is time to stop making schools such an easy target with compliant victims waiting too long for law enforcement response. It is time to change the equation.
 
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