Thread for #18 and smaller flies

zen leecher aka bill w

born to work, forced to fish
#1
What thread(s) do you use for tying small flies (into the 20's)? I've been researching veevus and see the 12/0 to 14/0 seems to have a breaking strength of about 18 ounces.

I've been using 6/0 and 8/0 tying thread as that's all I have and it's getting bulky on the flies. 6/0 is the worst and I can see I'll have issues with some of the smaller patterns with the 8/0.

So, recommendations for a semi-heavy handed tyer who thinks 18 ounce thread might be an issue. What do you use and how do you like it?

Guess I won't be tying any #24 muddlers with that thread.
 

Big E

Active Member
#2
I've been eyeing that Veevus thread. Breaking strength of 18 oz is really good for 12/0. Benecchi 12/0 has a 16 oz break strength which is comparable to 8/0 Uni.

If you need more than that you may need to switch to a 50 denier GSP with a break strength of over triple of the above threads mentioned.
 

GAT

Dumbfounded
#3
I use both the Benecchi 12/0 and recently, the Veevus 14/0. Both are excellent tying threads for small patterns so I recommend either one. Benecchi is kind'a hard to find in the NW but Hareline now carries Veevus so it should be available through your local fly shop.
 

dogsnfish

Active Member
#4
Now that steelhead is over for me I have switched to flies for Rocky Ford so many 18-22's. I have been using Griffith 14/0 shear and really like it. JStockard has it.
 

ScottP

Active Member
#5
I've been using 6/0 and 8/0 tying thread as that's all I have and it's getting bulky on the flies. 6/0 is the worst and I can see I'll have issues with some of the smaller patterns with the 8/0.
Are you using Uni 6/0 and 8/0? If you go with some of the flat threads like UTC 70 and MFC 8/0 and even some Danville 6/0 (which is 70 denier), tying stuff down to #22-#24 is not a big deal.

Regards,
Scott
 
#6
I use the Gordon Griffith 14/0 Sheer Ultrafine thread for flies #14 and smaller. Available in about a dozen colors, supposed to break at 16oz., I don't know what the real breaking strength is, but it's strong.

Kenneth
 

zen leecher aka bill w

born to work, forced to fish
#7
I've been eyeing that Veevus thread. Breaking strength of 18 oz is really good for 12/0. Benecchi 12/0 has a 16 oz break strength which is comparable to 8/0 Uni.

If you need more than that you may need to switch to a 50 denier GSP with a break strength of over triple of the above threads mentioned.
I did not know that the 8/0 Uni that I am currently using has the same breaking strength of the 12/0 14/0 veevus that I'm considering. That is enlightening. I thought I was going to have to learn thread breaking strengths all over again.

I have the Griffiths and Veevus in the "wish list" from a e-fly shop. No one locally carries it. Thanks for all the responses. I'll order some.
 
#8
Man, I wish i knew the manufacturer of the stuff I've been using. I got it from my mother before she passed. She was a sewer and used this were you didn't want to see the thread yet needed something strong. Small as say 6X tippet. Zero stretch and it will bend the hook if you pull hard. At first I had a hard time with it cutting the material. Now that I have gotten used to it I just don't pull it too tight. It's so small I can take multiple wraps on a #26 without building out to much.
 

psycho

Active Member
#9
I have been using Veevus for a while now, I have not had a thread break even the 17-0. I have it in 10-0 to 17-0. I like it better than Benechi.
 
#10
I have come to like Griffiths Sheer 14/0 very much. Good strength and flattens real nice. My only complaint/regret is that Griffiths doesn't offer it in more colors. Formerly, I tied only with UNI products but now prefer the Griffiths. Haven't yet tried Veevus or Bennechi.
Jack
 

ScottP

Active Member
#12
Benechi

I have heard Montana Fly has a good small thread be have not found it anywhere
I just got a few spools of the 6/0 at Lakestream in Whitefish. It's about the same diameter as Uni 8/0 but flat like Danville Flymaster; ties up very well. There's a few places that sell it online - The Fly Shop, Blue Ribbon.

Regards,
Scott
 

kelvin

Active Member
#13
I just got a few spools of the 6/0 at Lakestream in Whitefish. It's about the same diameter as Uni 8/0 but flat like Danville Flymaster; ties up very well. There's a few places that sell it online - The Fly Shop, Blue Ribbon.

Regards,
Scott
thanks for the tip have to give it a try
 

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