NFR Stupidity, full circle....

GAT

Dumbfounded
#16
Yup. Plus, I used up all my good luck for the rest of my life when they drew my number and it was 304.

No more good luck for me! It was a one time deal.
 

psycho

Active Member
#17
When I was 18 I had RSMs and CSMs that took the stupid out of you in a hurry.:D By the time that I was 19 I had a couple of stripes and the stupid was gone. Compulsorily military service does have it's benefits, even tho ours was volunteer.
 

GAT

Dumbfounded
#20
When I was 18 I had RSMs and CSMs that took the stupid out of you in a hurry.:D By the time that I was 19 I had a couple of stripes and the stupid was gone. Compulsorily military service does have it's benefits, even tho ours was volunteer.
Yeah, it makes a huge difference when there is an unjustified war going on and you don't have a choice if you end up in that war or not. It is all well and good if you join the service of your own free will and if so, good for you! You are doing a great service for our country and I honor all of you who joined for doing so. It's a little different story when the government snatches you off the streets and sends you off to a war that made no sense... then or today.

Regardless of all that, those who post anything on The Internet who do not realize the ramifications of doing so have a skewed perception of reality that does border on stupidity. 18 is certainly old enough to have some knowledge of the workings of The Internet... at least, you'd think so.
 

Old Man

Just an Old Man
#21
When I was 18 I had RSMs and CSMs that took the stupid out of you in a hurry.:D By the time that I was 19 I had a couple of stripes and the stupid was gone. Compulsorily military service does have it's benefits, even tho ours was volunteer.
You have to quit using acronyms. I looked these up and they had many definitions for them. I ain't smart enough to figure them out.
 
#23
Yup. Plus, I used up all my good luck for the rest of my life when they drew my number and it was 304.
Mine was in the low 200's; low enough to make me sweat for a couple years, but never called.

It seems like every generation has its war, but there has rarely been one that divides the nation as much as Vietnam did. I like to think I did my part to bring that war to an end by manning the barricades after the Kent State shootings in 1970 and marching on D.C. in the May Day protests of 1971, which often is identified as the turning point in the war of public opinion that led to the end of that war.

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GAT

Dumbfounded
#26
It seems like every generation has its war, but there has rarely been one that divides the nation as much as Vietnam did. I like to think I did my part to bring that war to an end by manning the barricades after the Kent State shootings in 1970 and marching on D.C. in the May Day protests of 1971, which often is identified as the turning point in the war of public opinion that led to the end of that war.
We're off topic but you are absolutely correct. I was also an anti-war protester. That war wasn't split between political parties. You had hawks and you had doves in both parties. I tell you what, when a draft is involved, it makes a huge difference to public opinion. Folks these days keep forgetting that we're still at war and our soldiers are risking their lives every day. During the Vietnam War, that fact was never ignored as it is with Afghanistan. We've been at war in Afghanistan longer than any other war in US history. If there was a draft, I have a feeling we would have been gone a long time ago.

Guys I knew who were drafted and sent to Vietnam came back and told us whatever we did, don't go! Move to Canada if we had to. The war was insanity with no clear mission as to what the hell we were doing there.
 
#27
Guys I knew who were drafted and sent to Vietnam came back and told us whatever we did, don't go! Move to Canada if we had to. The war was insanity with no clear mission as to what the hell we were doing there.
Off topic, yes... but I have grave reservations about an all-volunteer "professional" military after having lived in several foreign countries ruled by military dictatorships. A military that is mostly reservists and draftees knows that its loyalty lies in the civilian population. It is too easy for a military caste to confuse its priorities and take over a country "for its own good".

Argentina, Chile, Brazil, Uruguay and a bunch of others with "disappeared" citizens whom they felt opposed them.

Countries that are ruled by military juntas are never free.

Craig
 
#28
Ya, I did stupid stuff when I was 18, but I didn't brag or post about it when I came to the next morning.
As for wars no matter what name you put on them sense WWII, all stupid, waste of time, $, human life.
Plus, I don't see anyone with more freedom. Just my .02
 

Bradley Miller

Dances with fish
#29
You guys were lucky, I was 47 in the lottery. I was lucky though and already had a 2S deferment.
My lottery number was 5. I was determined, then, to join. But my dad (God rest his Korean War veteran combat medic soul.....) told me I should wait. I waited. Then the draft ended. I always listened to my dad after that.