being crude

People, first and foremost, this site isn't going to change. We're all different, so no one has the right to pass judgement. People get butthurt too easily anymore. I'm not one for feminized males, so I'll gladly keep doing as I do. ;)
Who's passing judgement? I'm not insulted by vulgarity. I just think it's stupid because it tells too much. If you get all uppity about it it's your problem...and we've just identified it.
 

Jerry Daschofsky

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Who's passing judgement? I'm not insulted by vulgarity. I just think it's stupid because it tells too much. If you get all uppity about it it's your problem...and we've just identified it.
If you think I was talking about you, then you must be guilty. I don't recall naming ANYONE'S name, now did I? And who's getting uppity? I think you may be the butthurt one. ;)
 

Jerry Daschofsky

Moderator
Staff member
Who's passing judgement? I'm not insulted by vulgarity. I just think it's stupid because it tells too much. If you get all uppity about it it's your problem...and we've just identified it.
By the way, what I was doing was kicking this ball back into play. Being a moderator and helping run this board, I was trying to get people to realize we're all different, so don't pass judgement. Hence, why I was NOT aiming that remark at you, but at EVERYONE. ;)
 
If you think I was talking about you, then you must be guilty. I don't recall naming ANYONE'S name, now did I? And who's getting uppity? I think you may be the butthurt one. ;)
It's not about names Jerry, you should know this. It's about civility. A civil society does not use vulgarity or personal insults to further it's cause...or it's opinion!
 

Jerry Daschofsky

Moderator
Staff member
It's not about names Jerry, you should know this. It's about civility. A civil society does not use vulgarity or personal insults to further it's cause...or it's opinion!
Really, how many civil countries have you been to? I've been to over 20. All curse in one way or another, even SOPHISTICATED people, especially when they have a drink or two. I've shared drinks with diplomats in Europe, they can curse. Can you say the same experience? Where do you base your knowledge? Please, let me know.
 
What if someone called your wife/mom/girlfriend a slut/bitch/cunt while you were standing there? Would you feel upset or at least understand if your wife/mom/gf was upset? Or would you just think they were letters strung together to form words? For language to be effective there generally has to be accepted meanings for the signs and symbols we use otherwise communication is not possible.
Quite honestly, if someone were to call my wife something while I was standing there, I would chuckle and continue with my day. Words flat out just don't bother me. Of course, along with your freedom to call my wife a bitch, I also support my own freedom to handle that in my own way... Which of course, is a whole separate issue.

However, you're taking just one small part of this argument and running with it. We're not just talking about someone standing on the side of the river slinging insults... .We're talking about a group of males, having a good time away from their wives, who happen to be cursing/farting/telling dirty jokes etc.

Freedom does not mean the freedom for everyone to live just the way YOU think they should. Freedom also means supporting those who you don't agree with. It's a two way street, but it amazes me that so many want to ignore that.
 
Really, how many civil countries have you been to? I've been to over 20. All curse in one way or another, even SOPHISTICATED people, especially when they have a drink or two. I've shared drinks with diplomats in Europe, they can curse. Can you say the same experience? Where do you base your knowledge? Please, let me know.
I have several friends with graduate degrees who are very successful in their fields... I can't think of one of them who doesn't speak "vulgarities." I consider myself very well educated and reasonably successful, and I have no verbal filter.

Edit: I'm jealous of the British. They have turned cursing in to an art that I can only dream to achieve.
 
Really, how many civil countries have you been to? I've been to over 20. All curse in one way or another, even SOPHISTICATED people, especially when they have a drink or two. I've shared drinks with diplomats in Europe, they can curse. Can you say the same experience? Where do you base your knowledge? Please, let me know.
So, we see that you consider youself an authority on civility based on the country's you've visited. Sorry, civility has nothing to do with country's. It's a human thing. And Rob is still correct.
 

Krusty

Active Member
Have you lived under the Taliban? I'm glad for you that you don't live under taliban rules. I'm even more glad that I don't live under your rules, where vulgarity is required to make a better life. Too each his own. Your's is not mine and never will be.
Under my 'rules' profanity and vulgarity are optional; I don't care if you use such words or not. If I don't like the company I find myself keeping...I fully understand it's my obligation to leave said company, and find other company more to my liking. I'm not silly enough to believe I'll bend others to my preferences....I guess I'll just have to live with your disappointment in my moral fiber. Don't worry, I'm already (almost!) over my shame at not meeting your high standards.
 

Jerry Daschofsky

Moderator
Staff member
So, we see that you consider youself an authority on civility based on the country's you've visited. Sorry, civility has nothing to do with country's. It's a human thing. And Rob is still correct.
No, not at all. But you just made a claim that you can't back up. I had more then enough experience with many countries, MUCH older and wiser then ours. Where I based my conclusion.

I'm done with this. You want to keep stirring the pot, I'll have you parked. How about that? This is getting old. I've just spent the last month dealing with gun threads, don't need a lot of BS like this either. We can all agree to disagree and call it a night.
 
So, we see that you consider youself an authority on civility based on the country's you've visited. Sorry, civility has nothing to do with country's. It's a human thing. And Rob is still correct.

Rob stated an opinion. Correct, or incorrect has absolutely nothing to do with anything here.
 

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