NFR The Masters

#16
... So... the tradition is the winner of the previous year's Masters helps the new winner put on the green coat. What happens if you win two years in a row? Are you required to put the coat on yourself when you win back to back tournaments? ...
That's already happened. I think it was Tiger that it happened to.
 

Salmo_g

Well-Known Member
#17
Golf matters?

Golf: the act of trying to put a small ball into a wee hole with equipment ill suited to the purpose.

No, I've never tried it, and I'd as soon watch paint dry as watch golf on TV.

Sg
 

freestoneangler

Not to be confused with Freestone
#18
Virginia always wants Tiger to lose because of his affairs. Personally, I don't care but don't tell her that.

So... the tradition is the winner of the previous year's Masters helps the new winner put on the green coat. What happens if you win two years in a row? Are you required to put the coat on yourself when you win back to back tournaments?

If Tiger can come back after all the years under the "curse of the Swede", that will be a heck of a comeback. Maybe he just needed another girlfriend. I bet she watches him like a hawk.
My hats off to Tiger on how he has handled this whole mess. It would not surprise me if he makes a serious run at or ends up winning the tournament. And, poor Fred Couples. He teases us every year that this may be the year except that on "moving day" he always moves backwards... still fun to watch him though. I got 27 #16 Purple Haze tied while watching today...not too bad for multitasking.

And yes, Salmo-G, golf matters. It's #2, then upland game bird hunting on my short list of sports. And going after fish with a 9' stick of graphite, line and blob of hair is considered well equipped? :D
 
#21
Adam Scott... finally, the Aussies have a locker in Butler Cabin! What another great tournament and finish.
That approach shot of Cabrera's on the last hole, to force a playoff was clutch! Did you see that stat just before he hit that shot? In the 10 yrs playing the Masters, Cabrera had never birdied the last hole. Then he hits that shot... I'm happy for Adam though. I was actually cheering for him, as the underdog. That was fun!!!
 
#25
As Mark Twain once said, "Golf...a good walk wasted."

As for me, the only good thing about golf is that it's a dying sport.
Uh... you might want to do a little research before making that kind of a statement. It's growing by the billions over the last decade.
 

Krusty

Active Member
#27
Uh... you might want to do a little research before making that kind of a statement. It's growing by the billions over the last decade.
You might well take a look yourself. Golf hours have steadily declined, far more courses have closed than opened, and the PGA (and industry associations) are desperate to attract young people to the sport. It's in trouble...that started before the great recession.
 
#28
I have to side with Krusty here. A Few comments from the Taylormade CEO this past weekend:

"I don't think he's had any effect on the economics of golf," Mark King, CEO of TaylorMade-Adidas Golf, said of Woods as part of a recent interview with CNBC.
During the interview, King was asked if Woods, who has won three times already this year on the PGA Tour, benefits the sport as a whole when he plays well. King was candid in explaining that while benefits may stretch to some ancillary portions of the industry, the trickle-down effect does not always reach the realm of equipment.
"Golf has been on a 16-year continual decline since Tiger came into golf," he noted. "Now, has he had an impact on people watching TV because he's maybe the greatest athlete of our generation? Absolutely.
"But are those people running out, taking golf vacations, buying a home on a golf course, buying a new driver? No, they're not," continued King, who became president of TaylorMade Golf in 1999 and added the title of CEO in 2002. "So Tiger, play well, get people watching TV, sell more spots, but it's not helping us."


No doubt the golf industry is taking a hit much like any other hobby/sport industry is during our economic down turn. The money is just not out there being spent on recreational pleasures like it was prior to 2008. I know I have read a few articles on golf courses and the economics. Not sure pro or con if the number of courses closing is equal to or greater than the number opening. But, I would think in today’s market opening a course in an area that is full of courses already would probably be a bad idea. Being a previous resident of San Diego County in So Cal I had 25 courses within a 20 minute drive of the house. They opened like wild fire in the late 90's and early 2000's. I can't imagine they are all doing as well now. But, give the economy a little uptick and I know they will have full parking lots by 8:00 every weekend. With that said, I do enjoy a nice round anytime the weather or water is not in the best shape. But a guy has to keep his priorities and be sure his drift boat and fly fishing gear is ready in case the water gets in shape!
 
#29
I have to side with Krusty here. A Few comments from the Taylormade CEO this past weekend:

"I don't think he's had any effect on the economics of golf," Mark King, CEO of TaylorMade-Adidas Golf, said of Woods as part of a recent interview with CNBC.
During the interview, King was asked if Woods, who has won three times already this year on the PGA Tour, benefits the sport as a whole when he plays well. King was candid in explaining that while benefits may stretch to some ancillary portions of the industry, the trickle-down effect does not always reach the realm of equipment.
"Golf has been on a 16-year continual decline since Tiger came into golf," he noted. "Now, has he had an impact on people watching TV because he's maybe the greatest athlete of our generation? Absolutely.
"But are those people running out, taking golf vacations, buying a home on a golf course, buying a new driver? No, they're not," continued King, who became president of TaylorMade Golf in 1999 and added the title of CEO in 2002. "So Tiger, play well, get people watching TV, sell more spots, but it's not helping us."


No doubt the golf industry is taking a hit much like any other hobby/sport industry is during our economic down turn. The money is just not out there being spent on recreational pleasures like it was prior to 2008. I know I have read a few articles on golf courses and the economics. Not sure pro or con if the number of courses closing is equal to or greater than the number opening. But, I would think in today’s market opening a course in an area that is full of courses already would probably be a bad idea. Being a previous resident of San Diego County in So Cal I had 25 courses within a 20 minute drive of the house. They opened like wild fire in the late 90's and early 2000's. I can't imagine they are all doing as well now. But, give the economy a little uptick and I know they will have full parking lots by 8:00 every weekend. With that said, I do enjoy a nice round anytime the weather or water is not in the best shape. But a guy has to keep his priorities and be sure his drift boat and fly fishing gear is ready in case the water gets in shape!
Well, since Tiger is sponsored by Nike - it would be hard to say that Taylor Made as a whole would be selling more because of his performance. Assuming people were buying golf equipment because of Tiger, I would think they would be buying the equipment he uses. Also, I have a very hard time believing golf has been a decline since Tiger Woods. Lets face it, golf is expensive. Any decline over the years is probably due to the economy. Tiger has definetly captured a whole new audience to the game. Some of these loyal fans probably cannot justify paying expensive green fees on a regular basis. However, they probably still watch the sport and play when they can afford it.
 

Peyton00

Active Member
#30
The golf explosion of the late 90's flooded certain regions with courses. The bubble has popped and now the green fees have dropped. The courses are hungry for revenue and getting a tee time is easy. I will fish the Nisqually in the morning and then golf Ft. Lewis in the afternoon quite often in Aug./ Sept. IF i get some tail that nite i call it a TRIFECTA! (coho on ice, birdies on the course and the sweet smell of honey on my pillow.)

I wouldn't call golf a dying sport. Its tough to play at a decent level and that frustrates the weekend warriors that want immediate levels of improvement... its too complex of a game to get fast action results overnite. IF par golf was easy fly fishermen would do it more often.;)
 

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