NFR Teddy Roosevelt award winner goes too....

Ed Call

Well-Known Member
#31
Rolf, we get it and the govt always sticks it to the taxpayer. We also get the BS that Trustfunder slings towards others at every turn. He is an entitled one that is above challenge or he will take shots at others like Kerry and Kent.
 
#32
Klickrolf,

I respect some of your comments. As fellow taxpayer, we're all together in a lot of things we don't like re fed/state gov. A lot of things piss me off other than the usual hot button issues. Some may include old dams, mining, oil, forestry and say grazing rights on fed land that seems to be given for a song but the f'ups we all pay for, always and seemingly forever. Let companies/farmers/foresters pay for it at the true market value (and/or have adequate insurance). If beef then costs a fortune then we'll eat chicken or pig or dare I say it veg...or buy it cheaper from Argentina, it's a global free market economy afterall. Take what you want at the price that's fair to all, e.g don't f'ing rip off the owners without a say; i.e. you and me and us. Socialist, but in the most base sense so lunatics may pause to understand this. Why should I have no choice other than give it away for almost nothing to let others profit hugely and then I/we pay (read Feds) have to clean up the shit, total madness.

Rather than bitch about few wolves, the gays of the animal world in my mind given the full on political craziness they brings out in folks, I really don't care. It's fly fishing forum for goodness sake! I for one really don't give a shit about wolves, nasty slavering, stinky things that they are. They're wild beasties, that live in the wild and they piss off some folks but a very few folks on this site seem obsessed with them. They haven't eaten someone for ages (how many folks are savaged by dogs each yr?) and farmers get compensated and if hunters have to walk more than 5 miles from their rig in a day, well that's why they call it hunting not shooting, to paraphrase. I'll bet there'll be sites showing that lassie causes more deaths a yr to flocks than Lupi and of course there''ll the opposite so we don't know.

We're all pissed off with the gov, I think that's always been the case but the underlying trend demonstated in this original post is shit, who really cares ? It was started on bollocks politico points scoring.

The mods should have shot it down like a bear, lion, sea lion, wolf, badger,otter (nod to Ed C), gerbil, hamster that's been covered in other 'classic' posts about the wonderful fishing of Washington and ways to 'fend/fuck' off the critters that may wander by. I'd be stunned if 1% of the WFF comunity actually cared that much about any 'wolf' issue in this context. I don't get it at all.

Who's caught a nice fish recently off the lakes or looking forward to summer steel or even a pink? Lone almost stunk for me recently,

Dave

PS why did the frog walk to work?

It's car was toad

Off to bed....
 

KerryS

Ignored Member
#33
Kerry your dog needs a haircut
The dog is 195 pound Newfoundland. He doesn't think he needs a hair cut. If you think he needs a trim come on up and give him one. He won't mind. He will sit there calmly, slobbering, wagging his tail while you cut his fur and won't do a thing to harm you. His owner, on the other hand, will fuck you up if you as much as lay a hand on that dog.
 
#36
I am amazed that the wolf draws so much emotion on both sides.
We moved to Arizona a few months ago and the issue here is the Mexican Wolf that used to roam much of eastern Arizona and western New Mexico. There have been a few new re-introductions both in AZ and NM in the last few weeks. The issue is not so volatle here in this area but there are still a lot of wolf haters.
Here is something interesting:
The Lion population in Arizona is 2500-3000 animals and the ADGF (game and fish) estimates that they kill one large prey an average of every 10-12 days. That is conservatively 6000 large prey a month (deer or elk + mix in a few coyotes and some peccaries.) Nobody seems to have a problem with that.
The wolf population in Arizona is 25. They may kill 50 large prey a month and 200 people showed up at a recent meeting in our area to protest or encourage the recent re-introduction.
Lions are not protected and the hunter depredation keeps the number fairly stable. Lions kill more domestic animals and have had way more human interaction than Wolves but no one is clamoring to eradicate Lions.
I don't get it.
Maybe if the Little Red Riding Hood story would have been written about mountain Lions????
It is all about the mystique of the Lobo. When I read western novels there is often a scene of the few cowboys around a campfire surrounded by a dozen yellow eyed monster Lobos.
jesse
 
#37
Kerry,

I think you and your pooch need to go to Montana and take Trustfunder "wolf" hunting. He likes baiting--bait him. Everybody knows I'm just kidding, right? Sorry, Ed. Really.

In my view, if you are sacrificing sheep and using them as bait, it says 2 things about you and neither are connected to one of our greatest presidents. 1. You are cheating the government and taxpayers if you file a claim. And, 2. You are NOT a hunter!

Jesse,

Great post. You need a few more trustfunders down there to make it really "interesting". And, Jesse, are the wolves from Mexico pretty much respecting the border or are we actually keeping some "illegals" out?
 

Flyborg

Active Member
#39
Kerry,

I think you and your pooch need to go to Montana and take Trustfunder "wolf" hunting. He likes baiting--bait him. Everybody knows I'm just kidding, right? Sorry, Ed. Really.

In my view, if you are sacrificing sheep and using them as bait, it says 2 things about you and neither are connected to one of our greatest presidents. 1. You are cheating the government and taxpayers if you file a claim. And, 2. You are NOT a hunter!

Jesse,

Great post. You need a few more trustfunders down there to make it really "interesting". And, Jesse, are the wolves from Mexico pretty much respecting the border or are we actually keeping some "illegals" out?
I'd pay to see Kerry 'bate Trustfunder :)

Teddy Roosevelt was an elk hunter, but he was also a "greenie" and a progressive. I find it amusing that such a great individual (and a personal hero) is so often misused as a bannerman of fucktardery and blatant ass-banditry by drooling imbeciles too fucking stupid to know anything more about the man than that he was an elk hunter.
 
#40
I'd pay to see Kerry 'bate Trustfunder :)

Teddy Roosevelt was an elk hunter, but he was also a "greenie" and a progressive. I find it amusing that such a great individual (and a personal hero) is so often misused as a bannerman of fucktardery and blatant ass-banditry by drooling imbeciles too fucking stupid to know anything more about the man than that he was an elk hunter.
…..:) We could use a few Republicans like Teddy Roosevelt these days
 
#44
Rather than start another wolf thread, I figure this is as good a thread as any to inject some facts about the recently completed wolf hunting and trapping season in Idaho.

It seems that trappers have pretty much indiscriminantly butchered a large number of animals caught in their traps. In the ocean, they call it 'by-catch.'

Here's the brief article from HCN: http://www.hcn.org/issues/45.7/trappers-catch-a-lot-more-than-wolves

Here are some of the figures:
45; 33 White-tailed deer caught; released alive *
45; 1 Coyotes caught; released alive *
9; 3 Mountain lions caught; released alive *
9; 7 Domestic pets caught; released alive *
39; 22 Other non-target animals caught, including bobcats, geese, skunks, raccoons, golden eagles and ravens; released alive *

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bennysbuddy

the sultan of swing
#45
I'd pay to see Kerry 'bate Trustfunder :)

Teddy Roosevelt was an elk hunter, but he was also a "greenie" and a progressive. I find it amusing that such a great individual (and a personal hero) is so often misused as a bannerman of fucktardery and blatant ass-banditry by drooling imbeciles too fucking stupid to know anything more about the man than that he was an elk hunter.
I learned in the third grade at school that he was also elected to president of the United States of America besides being an Elk hunter & seeing that Yellowstone be came a national park, Does this mean I'm not a Fucktardery blatant ass inbecile or what?