North Fork Stilly Condition

KerryS

Ignored Member
#76
WDFW should have closed it a month or more ago...

I believe the entire section from the bridge above Deer Creek down to the 1st bend below should be permanently closed.
 
#78
This makes sense. The wild fish are congregating at the mouth of the creek and guys just hammer on the same fish over and over. Some guys don't even bother to fish other pools in these conditions because they know where the fish are. Fish in a barrel.
True, but has this not always been the case? Even Zane Grey and his crew fished the mouth before making their trip into Deer Creek in 1918. I can understand the issue with the river temperature, which is why I will accept this. (I have no choice.). However, any sort of increase or decrease in their abundance over the last 30 years has been driven by other more important factors (the most obvious being the DeForest Creek landslide), rather than the pressure, or sometimes, lack thereof, from a catch and release fishery by fly fishermen. If that is really a concern, than maybe the rules should be updated to something like anglers can only use floating lines and un-weighted flies from July 1st – September 30th. Anyhow, that is just my 2 cents.
 

KerryS

Ignored Member
#79
I'm glad it's not you're decision to make. I don't believe normal angling pressure, under normal conditions has much effect on the run of fish.
You may be correct. I am just looking at where the fish tend to stack up and thinking it may be nice to give them some sanctuary in that area. May be something that has little to no appreciable effect on the fish one way or the other.
 

Hillbilly Redneck

wishin i was fishin
#80
The difference now as I see it is the fish are not going up the creek and the same fish are getting caught multiple times. This ain't 1918. Some years of high water the fish don't really congregate but just swim up the creek. Floating lines and un-weighted flies actually work pretty good on wild summer steel. The issue I have with permanently closing that section of river is who will police all the illegal fishing/poaching that goes on. Last time I was at the mouth a saw a sand shrimp container and a rooster tail package on the beach. A few dead fish killed by poachers = a lot of released fish by ethical anglers.
 
#82
The difference now as I see it is the fish are not going up the creek and the same fish are getting caught multiple times. This ain't 1918. Some years of high water the fish don't really congregate but just swim up the creek. Floating lines and un-weighted flies actually work pretty good on wild summer steel. The issue I have with permanently closing that section of river is who will police all the illegal fishing/poaching that goes on. Last time I was at the mouth a saw a sand shrimp container and a rooster tail package on the beach. A few dead fish killed by poachers = a lot of released fish by ethical anglers.
I didn’t mean to suggest that things are as they were in 1918. But with the exception of high water years, they have traditionally been found holding at and below the mouth, waiting to get into Deer Creek. I agree with you about the issue with poachers. When I hiked up Deer Creek last Saturday (just to explore and look around), I found an empty roll of Izor line on the shore below the entrance to the canyon.
 
#83
The illegal fishing in that neck of the woods is pretty disgusting. The activity I have seen is not from people who don't know any better. I have felt for a long time that this is a major issue with both the wild steelhead and, sadly, the chinook recovery efforts.
 

Andy D

Active Member
#84
The illegal fishing in that neck of the woods is pretty disgusting. The activity I have seen is not from people who don't know any better. I have felt for a long time that this is a major issue with both the wild steelhead and, sadly, the chinook recovery efforts.
The last couple of years I have also noticed and increase in chinook carcasses disposed of on the side of the river. They are a filleted out and discarded in the same spots year to year. I suspect it is just a few people poaching for their freezers. Not saying that to make it sound ok. These people are killing a lot of fish. I have come across piles of carcasses, but I have never caught them out there in the act.
 
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Evan Virnoche

Guest
#90
Drugs and hookers are to expensive in hawaii. I will jist have to settle with the chevron girls or thee wookie off swede haven sheell
 

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