FS How do you wait before you cuss for being ripped off

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Jerry Daschofsky

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I have purchased and sold items on this forum and so far everything has gone great. But, I cannot figure out how to leave ratings for the people I have dealt with. Can someone PM me the instructions? Thanks.
This only appears in the classifieds areaa. But if you look you'll see a green $ and a red $. Green is a good transaction, Red is a bad one. Please rate as you see it and don't just overdo it. Had a kid not like my posts on the ad he had, and started hitting the Red $ for a bad transaction. Well, since I never dealt with him for an item, I had to go through and delete all the ratings (since it affected my status and I didn't even buy from him). So only use it if you're the buyer or seller on the particular item.
 
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I guess I have an expectation in that I hope to be treated the same way I treat others. You're making it sound like everyone is running a business off a fly fishing forum. A couple hundred transactions a month vs some poor schmuck who's paid hard earned money for something he's been looking for for a long time, only to get stiffed?? If someone buys something from me, I make it a priority to have it out asap and to communicate. Paypal offers some protection to the buyer while a cashed check has none. You're right though ........ I have no job but tons of money, and I can do whatever I want all day long (where's the roll eye's smiley). Besides, you can't be that busy if you have time on a working week day to write out that long reply, probably enough time to get to the post office and back ;) I get your point though, we all have different schedules, priorities etc.
 

bigdood

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I have purchased and sold items on this forum and so far everything has gone great. But, I cannot figure out how to leave ratings for the people I have dealt with. Can someone PM me the instructions? Thanks.


The dollar signs. Green = good. Red = bad.

EDIT: Jerry beat me to it. Ahh well I gave you a visual to go along w/ his post!
 

Jerry Daschofsky

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I guess I have an expectation in that I hope to be treated the same way I treat others. You're making it sound like everyone is running a business off a fly fishing forum. A couple hundred transactions a month vs some poor schmuck who's paid hard earned money for something he's been looking for for a long time, only to get stiffed?? If someone buys something from me, I make it a priority to have it out asap and to communicate. Paypal offers some protection to the buyer while a cashed check has none. You're right though ........ I have no job but tons of money, and I can do whatever I want all day long (where's the roll eye's smiley). Besides, you can't be that busy if you have time on a working week day to write out that long reply, probably enough time to get to the post office and back ;) I get your point though, we all have different schedules, priorities etc.
No, it's called vacation. ;) So yeah, have some to write out replies right now.

And it's not always flyfishing, since I don't really do it as a business anymore. But I let soldiers buy through me at cost if they're in my (or were) PHWFF programs. Since I volunteer at a WTB, the soldiers either get reassigned to a unit or go home. So send care packages across the US (and the world who go back into active duty). Again, when I was doing it as a "for profit" business, I still was out a day or two. And NOWHERE did I claim or make it sound like everyone was running a flyfishing business online. BUT, a lot of us have busy schedules. Why we like face to face meetings to get gear dropped off (how I do most of my actual sales on here). I purposely try NOT to ship BECAUSE of my schedule. But have met a ton of great people off this board because we could hook up after hours. It's actually a bit nicer that way. But in your instance, it may be a BIT tough to just run and meet someone in Seattle lol.

BTW, on my job I can do this (get online) during my lunch break. But I'm GPS tracked, running a package car owned by the company and burning their diesel to go mail a package NOT through my company would kinda tick them off. LOL.
 

Jerry Daschofsky

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I should also ad, I treat everyone the way I wanted to be treated. And yes, there are times I need that swift kick in the head. Again, it's not always plain as black and white. Especially where the transactions were done. If the guy in question (per location) is in the military and doing pre deployment training, he may be away from the computer (and his home) for a few days. So before we start kicking his ass, may want to wait a couple days. Then slay him. ;)
 

Richard E

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This only appears in the classifieds areaa. But if you look you'll see a green $ and a red $. Green is a good transaction, Red is a bad one. Please rate as you see it and don't just overdo it. Had a kid not like my posts on the ad he had, and started hitting the Red $ for a bad transaction. Well, since I never dealt with him for an item, I had to go through and delete all the ratings (since it affected my status and I didn't even buy from him). So only use it if you're the buyer or seller on the particular item.
Fortunately, you have the ability to delete false/spurious claims like this. Not all folks do. This is a perfect example that someone's "rating" may not be accurate...

I have purchased and sold many items, over almost 10 years here on this site. Somtimes there is a lag in getting something to me, and I have certainly lagged also in sending items to people. But, the deal always happens. Could be luck, but I like to think differently...
 

Richard E

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Wow Wes, must be nice to have a free schedule and live right next door to a post office. I'm jealous.

NOW, for the rest of us, even in MY profession, I can't just mail stuff out that day. I unfortunately don't get a discount through work, and for smaller items I send via USPS since I'm not worried about timeframe to get to the doorstep. But since most Post Offices hours are so finite, it's hard for most working individuals to get there and mail off their packages. And yes, you can preprint label (even for USPS) and drop it off, but since most of my items are too big and the carriers don't just pickup the packages as described on the commercials, most of us can't get to the PO while they are open to safely drop off or send out the packages. And I give that leeway to the person I'm buying from as well. Having 25 years in the industry, I do believe I have a little "insight" on how things work (and yes, I do work with USPS too, we carry their surepost packages for them since they can't handle the volume).

Maybe I'm jaded a bit by this post. Why? Because I live in reality. I love hearing "it only takes a minute". Hmmmmm. Try working 12 hours a day doing a physical labor job (a real one lol), doing non profit work, taking care of a family, then trying to remember to send off a "got your payment" email. Again, I get my stuff sent out pretty damned quick, just not next day. Especially if they use a check (and yes Wes, A LOT of people use checks still, I do a couple hundred transactions a month, and almost half are via check), I wait for that check to clear before I even order the gear they need. Nothing worse then being stuck with almost $400 of supplies or gear that I can't use and would have a hard time selling.

Onto money orders, AGAIN, do NOT send item right away. Why? Because they can be falsified as well. Make sure it's cashed first. Again, it's a job hazard, I've had the pleasure to deal with falsified bank checks and PO MO. So make sure you get the cash on that one as well. With the age of laser printers, they can do phenominal work that even a lot of trained eyes can't catch. It's scary.
This post is one of your best yet, Jerry. Attaboy.
 

Jerry Daschofsky

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Fortunately, you have the ability to delete false/spurious claims like this. Not all folks do. This is a perfect example that someone's "rating" may not be accurate...

I have purchased and sold many items, over almost 10 years here on this site. Somtimes there is a lag in getting something to me, and I have certainly lagged also in sending items to people. But, the deal always happens. Could be luck, but I like to think differently...
You bring up a great point. IF there's a false claim on your rating, you can contact us and we can change it. But we haven't had to deal with this yet, so I'm thinking we would have to have both sides of story and go from there.
 
#28
I have bought a few things from this forum as well with no problems what so ever. I guess just the majority of people these days are good folks. Pretty lame to rip someone off to make a buck.
 

gofish101

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Sorry to hear. I haven't any problems yet but I must admit I look at length of membership and number of posts before I decide to buy even if I really want it.
 

Drifter

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#30
I still do not know why we can't have a 25 or more post limit for selling and buying. I get sick and tired of people on their first post grabbing awesome deals before members ever even get a chance to see it! many companies do this and resell to make money and this is supposed to be a non company,member forum, for selling and buying. Just because someone gets a name and signs up doesn't mean it's not a company.

I have sold two items (among others) for a very good price and right away had people p.m. me with their first or second post wanting to buy and I tell them that I am going to let the members have a chance to see it because at least the members have added to the forums. I have found another site does this with all their transactions.

Maybe people would still get taken but I bet it would be much-much less! We can talk about the problem or come up with a solution.
 
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